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hoplitenomad
Posted: Oct 2 2012, 10:05 PM
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As a minority, I was curious to how many others may be gaming with TOR.


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She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

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Posted: Oct 2 2012, 11:04 PM
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Posted: Oct 2 2012, 11:10 PM
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I would like to try running TOR with my long-term group(But currently have a Mouse Guard game on Hiatus), and if I do the group is 1/3 female (2 our of 6).

Sadly I think my upcoming TOR group is going to be strictly guys... and so far rather boring character-wise lol


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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 12:08 AM
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My group is 50% female (40% if you include either myself or the other main GM). It's something I give a bit of thought to when going into historical settings (or settings with a fairly authentic historical feel, like Middle-Earth), but so far it's never presented a problem.
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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 01:27 AM
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Hiyas!

Deer OP:
When you say "minorities" what are you referring to? Cause in my region everyone could be considered a minority - in other regions! wink.gif



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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (NIŅO @ Oct 2 2012, 10:27 PM)
Hiyas!

Deer OP:
When you say "minorities" what are you referring to?  Cause in my region everyone could be considered a minority - in other regions! wink.gif



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Yes, I should have clarified. I was speaking from an America-centric point of view.

I would love to other situations. For example, one of our players in my play by post game is a blonde eyed male of Nordic descent, but is living in the mountains of Peru and he is the minority there.

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BTW might you be in South America? Perhaps Brazil?


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About Eowyn,
Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means?

She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.
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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 11:34 AM
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Minority is a strange term and I don't think I research the ethnicity of my players before playing but no I play usually with my oldest friends since kindergarten biggrin.gif


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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (farinal @ Oct 3 2012, 03:34 PM)
I play usually with my oldest friends since kindergarten biggrin.gif


Hi:

Aren't they a minority? tongue.gif


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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (hoplitenomad @ Oct 3 2012, 05:48 AM)
BTW might you be in South America? Perhaps Brazil?

Hi:

Brazil...Hmmm...Samba, beautiful babes, Ze Caxiao...No such luck. I'm closer to the center. wink.gif



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Also: Not to start a fw or anything, but I was taught "America" is a continent. tongue.gif
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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 07:39 PM
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My regular group here in the North of England is all white male 40-somethings.

But WAGs* and teenage offspring have been involved in a laaarge party Trail of Cthulhu game. And I've run a promising splinter/tangent game for one of the regular group, his wife, and my partner (F).

WAGs is an abbreviation for "wives and girlfriends". (Do people know this outside of the UK? he pondered...)

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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE ("Osric")
(Do people know this outside of the UK? he pondered...)


No, that is new terminology to me.


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Posted: Oct 3 2012, 09:06 PM
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Also: Not to start a fw or anything, but I was taught "America" is a continent.


In the USA we are generally taught 7 continents which include North America and South America as separate continents and America being the short form of the USA.

However, I know other places count 5-7 continents and some of them count what we call North and South America as one continent.

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(Do people know this outside of the UK? he pondered...)


I am familiar with the term.


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About Eowyn,
Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means?

She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.
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Posted: Oct 6 2012, 09:08 PM
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My group is a total of 8 people, including 3 woman, a latino, an asian, and 1 black guy.
Sorry, I know that sounds like the start to a bad joke.
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QUOTE (hoplitenomad @ Oct 4 2012, 01:06 AM)
In the USA we are generally taught 7 continents which include North America and South America as separate continents and America being the short form of the USA.

However, I know other places count 5-7 continents and some of them count what we call North and South America as one continent.


Hn

Hi:

5 Olympic Rings, 5 continents. 'Nuff said. tongue.gif


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Posted: Oct 6 2012, 10:39 PM
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"WAGs is an abbreviation for "wives and girlfriends". (Do people know this outside of the UK? he pondered...)'

Yep, I've heard the term before.

My group consists of 7 white guys; though one of the wives has joined the current game we are running.


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5 Olympic Rings, 5 continents. 'Nuff said. 


Yep, North America, South America, Africa, Australia, and Eurasia. wink.gif


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About Eowyn,
Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means?

She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.
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Posted: Oct 7 2012, 06:08 AM
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Wow, everywhere I go on the Internet lately I keep seeing the 'How many continents are there?' debate, weird.

I was taught there were 7.



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Posted: Oct 7 2012, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (hoplitenomad @ Oct 7 2012, 07:41 AM)
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5 Olympic Rings, 5 continents. 'Nuff said. 
Yep, North America, South America, Africa, Australia, and Eurasia. wink.gif

Whoa there ... if you were taught those 5 continents then your teacher should go back to school, as they totally missed Antarctica! I'm sure all of our penguin TORfellows are rising up in protest!
The continents are: Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North & South Americas.
One could propose Eurasia and America - thus making the total only 5 .... but that would be geologically incorrect. 7 there be.

To save further debate please G00gle if still in doubt.


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Posted: Oct 7 2012, 08:37 AM
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Oh sorry, back to the thread topic - the last campaign I GM'd had 2.5 female and 2.5 male players.
The .5 female was very shy & new to the RPG concept, so she rarely injected herself into play (we did our best to encourage her).
The .5 male was simply unreliable and therefore was an NPC ~half the time. (It seems weird to quantify someone as half a gamer) unsure.gif
At the risk of stereotyping folks I cherish - the group consisted of an Asian, a lesbian uni-student, a struggling artist/poet and a long-term unemployed (plus the 2 x .5's) and myself (I'm just plain eccentric!). I'm not sure who in this group considers themselves in a minority ... perhaps all of us!
Likewise the large gaming club I once ran had a broad spectrum of folks who may have identified themselves as members of minorities ... it was never topical & I feel it improved the culture & experience of our community.
One of the great things I love about RPgaming is that we get to interact with companions of all walks of life and very interesting personalities, and through this gain opportunities to develop trust, understanding & a better appreciation for folks who differ from the norm (whatever that may be).
Eek - I'm sounding like an RPG-evangelist! ... off my soap-box now wink.gif


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Posted: Oct 7 2012, 02:13 PM
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if you were taught those 5 continents then your teacher should go back to school, as they totally missed Antarctica!




Geologists use the term continent in a different manner from geographers. The former use the crust as their model. Some examples of different models used:

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Encyclopedia of World Geography, Volume 1": "And since Africa and Asia are connected at the Suez Peninsula, Europe, Africa, and Asia are sometimes combined as Afro-Eurasia or Eurafrasia. BTW ( It seems to me if the Suez Canal connects those 3 then there are only 3 continents using that logic model as N and South America are attached)

5: the International Olympic Committee uses only inhabited continents (excluding Antarctica) and thus a five-continent model as depicted in the Olympic logo.
IIR the above usually males N and S America as one and separates Europe and Asia. My response was to flip the two

6: Some places combine either N and S America or Europe and Asia.

7. How I was taught in school.


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About Eowyn,
Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means?

She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight.

'Dern Helm"

Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.
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Posted: Oct 7 2012, 03:11 PM
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How I was thought in the 80's (in no particular order):

1) America (with regional distinction between North, Central and South America)

2) Eurasia (with regional distinction between Europe and Asia)

3) Africa (with several demographic distinctions such as Maghreb Africa, Middle East, and Continental Africa, a politically correct term for "black" Africa)

4) Oceania (which included more of the Indonesia than what Wiki seems to indicate IIRC)

5) Antarctica

Back on subject, my groups have been so far pretty representative of the the demographics of RPGs; always at least one female player but typically in minority, one who is significantly younger or older that the rest of the group, one of different cultural origin/religious upbringing, one gay/lesbian etc.

I always had at least one women in my groups, but rarely more than one other "minority" at any given time.
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Posted: Oct 7 2012, 04:40 PM
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You're all wrong.

The number of continents are unknown, because here in Middle-earth, Tolkien only authorized the reproduction of a small portion of one land mass - which may or may not have been a continent.

While other land masses were theorized, no such places were actually mapped, approved of and confirmed to exist or have existed.

Aman, having been removed from the world, does not count.

For those wishing to argue the last point, please note this still means you're incorrect as it would add at least 3 more continents to Earth that I know of - Atlantis, Lemuria and Mu. There might, of course, be other continents that have somehow managed to go astray.

Oh, wait, are we factoring in time? Because if so we haven't accounted for Pangea, nor it's off-shoots, Laurasia and Gondwana.

Then there is the Hollow Earth theory in which case we're all going to be found to be totally wrong.

Not to mention the hypothetical alternate decision stream (time line) worlds and whatever is on the other side of this brane. What is on the other side of all the other branes I'll leave to the brains because my {[bra(i)n]e } is starting to get a migraine.


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Posted: Oct 7 2012, 06:54 PM
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Garn, you're crazy. And I feel like I should know all the places you mentioned besides Middle Earth, Aman, Atlantis and Pangea :/


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Posted: Oct 8 2012, 12:54 AM
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You're right Garn - we shall likely remain forever unknowing.
When hyperdimensional Branes clash - who knows what ways open to other alternate realities where further lands await transdimensional adventurers?
In addition to those you mention are the Dreamlands, Hyborea, Lyonesse, Thule, etc and so on.
Not that I'm suggesting that these lay within Tolkien's Arda, but seeing as we're brane-storming wacko.gif
On a thought provoking tangent - 'tis interesting that the mythical land of Lyonesse (off the coast of British Isles & France) is linked to a large island thought to have been called Ennor (un-submerged remnants now known as the Scilly Isles).
This is the Sindarin form of Tolkien's Quenya term Endor (MiddleEarth).
As we know - the Prof was inspired to detail a mythology for the British Isles, so perhaps there is a substantial link to be made between Middle Earth and Lyonesse??

I'm sure more academic minds than mine have already scholared this ad infinitum. Tolwen? Eluadin? Anyone? Bueller?
Ouch - now I too have a Brane migraine! tongue.gif


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Posted: Oct 8 2012, 02:35 AM
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Beleg,
I said I was having brain troubles. user posted image

Wikipedia: Lemuria and Wikipedia: Mu are also legendary lost continents (Wikipedia: Lost Lands) that no one has been able to find. (BTW, thanks for commenting - I didn't know about rather a lot of the real missing lands and a couple of legendary ones.)

Pangea broke up into two land masses: Laurasia (northern hemisphere) and Gondwana (southern hemisphere), to simplify things.

And "branes" are a short name for "membranes" because String Theory postulates that existence is rather like a stack of paper. Each page is a separate and distinct thing, but they are sitting on top of one another infinitesimally apart, and are theorized to include every type of alternate existence mankind has ever imagined.


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Posted: Oct 8 2012, 04:40 AM
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Minority?

What, you mean like, a Halfling? unsure.gif

I'm the LM (male)
My Wife (female)
My Brother (male)
His Wife (female)

So overall total is 50-50 between the genders.

The Company though is 2/3 females...

Then again... my wife plays a halfling so maybe that is actually 50-50 as well?

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String theory? Now you've lost me. I just knew the name. I may be able to do A level physics, but stuff like that... :S


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I LM for a group of 5, and half of us are white males. One is female.

(I'm in the US for a point of reference)
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QUOTE (Poosticks7 @ Oct 7 2012, 10:08 AM)
Wow, everywhere I go on the Internet lately I keep seeing the 'How many continents are there?' debate, weird.

I was taught there were 7.

Well... I don't know how many continents there are. But, I know people from United States use toponym "America" to refer to their country and demonym "americans" to refer to their people. But in Latin America we use America to refer to a single continent, wich is divided in 3 sub-continents called North, South and Central America. So, we consider ourselves "americans" too, but in another sense.

I think, in general, there is not a "correct" or "universal" usage of a term. Meaning of a word depends on the speech community who use it.


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