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Beleg |
Posted: Oct 16 2012, 09:30 AM
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Just of curiosity, does anyone know if Tolkien ever stated Aredhel as being a non-gender specific name? As in the Adventurer's book it's listed as a male elf name, whereas the only Aredhel I know of was female.
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Valarian |
Posted: Oct 16 2012, 11:24 AM
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No idea, but I'm guessing it's a female name:
http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/a/aredhel.html No reason it couldn't be a male name as well, I suppose. We've got Lesley, Ashley and Leigh/Lee as examples of names that are used by both genders. Then there's the boy named Sue. -------------------- Current EU RPG Group Games: European FG2 RPG Friday (8pm to 11pm UK time; Ultimate License) - Classic Traveller Sunday (8pm to 11pm UK time; Ultimate License) - The One Ring: Adventures over the Edge of the Wild Using Ultimate FGII and can accept unlicensed player connections on some of the games. ----------------- LOTRO - Brandywine Server Halbras - Hobbit Hunter / Jonab - Bree-folk Captain / Ardri - Dwarf Guardian / Halaberiel - Elf Hunter |
Arthadan_ |
Posted: Oct 16 2012, 05:40 PM
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In Quenya, the are some suffix specific for female names which are (according to my limited knowledge, there are more):
-wen, -ndis, -dis (maybe -isse), -ien, -iel, -rien, -riel, -rel -sel. While those for males names are: -ion, -ndur, -ndil. So Aredhel sounds like a name only for females, and I would be surprised Tolkien ever used a female name for a male character. But please note I'm no Quenya expert (not by a long shot). |
Garn |
Posted: Oct 17 2012, 01:23 AM
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According to Tolkien Gateway, Aredhel means "Noble Elf".
Looking them up in Hiswelókë it would break down etymologically into [âr, ara- or aran] + edhel, I think. So "King/Noble/Royal" + "elf (female)" . I noted that the suffix has mutliple spellings, providing edhel or edhil, so I can only guess that the el ending is a female suffix although it is not specifically noted. So I don't think Aredhel is acceptable, but Aredhil would probably be the male equivalent of the name. PS: BTW, there are different dictionary layouts for that site, go to the main page and try some of the others. -------------------- Garn!
I have yet to read the books thoroughly. |