Maybe old news but I'll put it up anyway.

Approximately 80 new figs.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...Id=prod1820008a

Below the main pic you can click on all the individual figs and see them in 360.


The bad guys:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...eStyle=athletic.



The Escape from Goblin Town is $125... certainly a fantastic Christmas gift for someone else, but I can't see myself buying it just for me.

Those figs are certainly outstanding, though.

Yup, usual GW over pricing.

Yup, usual GW over pricing.

GW do a great job getting new people into miniatures and away from PC and console games, but that said, their prices really do take the mickey.

£20 for 12 plastic figures? Airfix must be wondering where they went wrong.

Victrix and Perry Miniatures offer larger, better moulded wargame miniatures at £18 for 36 figures, with interchangeable poses.

Rant over.

What gets me is that GW has switched over to resin, a cheaper medium to work with, but their price for a figure stayed the same as the old metal ones. I know that the process needs to be switched from metal to resin and that takes start up money, but GW has given no indication that prices will go down in the future for their products. In fact the opposite seems to be the order of the day.

I'm just glad I never got into the 40k crap, though they do some reallly bang up paint jobs on their miniatures. The display room at WHW is something to see for sure.

Sorry really dont like them at all, not the figures themselves but the actual charachters from the film. The dwarves are of different proportion to the Lord of the Rings, the goblins are different, not sure why??? Wargs are different...errr why.
And dont get me started on the three films and the whole white council and Necromancer bit and I noticed somewhere they mentioned the goblin wolf riders trying to cut off the dwarves before they reacher Rivindell, i havent read it for a couple of weeks, but I musrt have missed that bit... Oh and while I am on the ranty bit... have you see what they have done to Dale arggggh neoclasical thingy with terracotta tiles.
ANd back to GW
£50 for three trolls yeah right as if....
rule book £50
base set £75
troll set £50

getting price pretty quick before you start adding extras

What the hell? Those goblins are albinos or something? I'm currently building a LOTR Moria army and where the hell did the old products gone?

edit: Oh all right found them. phew!

I was kind of concerned about something like this when I heard they were doing 3 movies. . How do you get 3 movies out of a 300 pg book? Most scripts are 250 pages. Where is the extra info coming from?

On topic, I am still surprised GW hasn't priced itself out of business. I guess there is a lot of (insert term here) people buying their over priced tripe.

GW doesn't have enough competition, yeah there are other miniature wargames but they just don't sell as well. I was fortunate in picking up a good £300 worth of LotR miniatures for less than £50 from an untested ebay seller, but there is no way I would have bought that much directly from GW.

Kinda wish I was working when GW wasn't so insane. £20-25 for a rulebook, maybe 10 years ago? 20 infantry for less that £20. Well, missed that boat.

I found myself quite happy dealing with Spartan Games, where for £32 I could buy a decent naval fleet, rather than just a tenth of my force.

Now, price rants over.

I'm not digging the Goblin look, including the great Goblin. Is he the size of a Troll? I get that he's supposed to be big, but I always imagined him no more than a head or two taller than an Uruk-Hai. Added scepticism for the movie? A little. But I'm sure I'll get over it.

Uhm, why is a new rule book necessary? Isn't this the same system of the previous LoTRs miniature game? Oh, wait...how stupid of me! Of course a new rules set is so GW can squeeze another $100 out of the fan base. Because, we all know you can't play the Hobbit miniature game without the official Hobbit miniatures rules, now can we?

This company just becomes more frickin' insulting by the moment!

Simple. As per usual with Peter Jackson half of the movie will be in slooooow motion as this is the only way he knows to try and convey emotion.

Resisting the urge of playing the devils advocate..... Trying at least. So let me start by saying I agree with all of what you guys are saying.

Yes they are ridiculously expensive. Yes they publish extremely expensive books with every new edition of the game, and every new edition contains minor, itty-bitty changes from the previous one, that are still important and make you want to buy it even though in essence it is still the same game.

Quite often they even step back rules that were in two editions ago, was dropped the last time, and now in again... so silly it makes me want to puke.

BUT... It's hard to argue with the fact that they do make money. Maybe not as much as in the glory days (10-15 years ago) but still... they are successful, the concept IS working. You guys might not buy it, but enough people do apparently.

I have not bought a single piece of theirs in the last.... let me think... 9 years? But I'm always tempted by their books.

I know I won't play it. I know I don't have time or peace enough (what with two kids running around) to paint anything. I know it's expensive as hell. And yet I look at those 400+ page, full colour, lavish, tomes of splendid miniature glory and I think..... DAMN that would look awesome on my coffee-table!!!

I bought the Lord of the Rings Minigame hardback, simply for the joy of reading and looking at the pictures... I might do the same thing here.

So they are doing something right. No matter how much we are all whining about it.

/wolf

"I bought the Lord of the Rings Minigame hardback, simply for the joy of reading and looking at the pictures... I might do the same thing here."

Far be it from me to stop anyone from doing so, but pardon if I question anyones faculties for dropping $100 US on this "fine" looking book.

Please be careful of spoilers, since The Hobbit has yet to be released anywhere outside of New zealand not everyone has seen it.
Thanks
E

You mean as opposed to all the, literally, thousands of dollars I've spent on RPGs lining my bookshelf, and that I love, but that I have never actually played?

/wolf

Yep totally agree, however as I am in the UK I have to wait another 2 weeks to see the film, this is based on what I have seen prior to the release.
Unfortunately anyone who looks in the Latest White dwarf will see the different characters etc, they discuss bits out of the film, not to mention all the stuff online, including photos, trailers and insider gossip.
I would have said anyone reading the book would find the spoilers already there, but then again.... maybe not.

Regarding GW. They price what they know people will be willing to pay. I can bet tomorrow when the doors oopen and the new releases are released they will be leving the shops in their droves.
Luckily you found the Moria goblins Munkerz, there was a discussion in the shop that that these might be disapearing for a while, same with the old LOTR rules sets too, as well as the core games.
and yes to your point about Albino's

So many Moria Goblins, Uruk-Hai, and Gondor models all over my room.
I do want to see if the new rulebook contains profiles for all the old miniatures, and any restructuring of the game. Force organisation sounds like it'll be different.
£50 is too much in my opinion for the rulebook, but maybe I'll find it cheaper from a third-party. If so, I'll give it some consideration.

Do you already have the LoTR miniatures rules? Did any other gaming book you purchased in the past cost upwards of $100 for one volume? $100 for the Hobbit rules is highway robbery, with a side order of "please, bend over."

The only gaming thing I have ever bought that was over $100 was a copy of LUG Dune:Chronicles of the Imperium which was 1 of about 1000 copies.

I really don't know what astounds me most, the fact people still eat up GW stock or the outlandish prices they think their crap is worth.

Wow, Beran is in a cranky mood today. (although I must agree with everything he said ).

I also think it is outrages at this price. A rulebook that actually contains MINIMUM different rules from LOTR and to sell it to that price? It's robbery.

I too am curious about the decision or who made the decision to go with the 'cave-fish' look with the goblins. Artistic license, I suppose.


As for GW's pricing - I don't remember what GW sold Moria Goblins for on their site but you could pick up a box of 24 for $24 at your FLGS or $22.00 + shipping, on Amazon/Ebay, which is roughly $1.oo/mini.

Then, about a year ago, GW's marketing came up with a clever idea. The new Moria Goblin box contained 12 mini's and was $24.75 + $5.00 shipping. Brilliant.

Oh, and apparently there are two versions of Escape From Goblin Town - one with the Radagast mini (the Limited), the other without. The latter is $45 cheaper or so said the person who bought me one for Christmas.

They bought it off ebay, preorder. I was told it won't arrive until early/mid-January. Or maybe this is an early, elaborate april fool's joke.

It was not my intention for this to become a GW bashing session, more the ooooh what the heck has Peter Jackson done to the book through his changes to the book and characters already designed bt Weta.

Not really. I just really hate GW business practices. That's all.

So, what is it exactly that is wrong with the "cave fish" colouring of the goblins? I know it doesn't really match what I had in mind, but for creatures who spend the majority of their time underground it does, in a way, make sense. We could, also, be looking at the choice made by the individual painter who worked on the minis for the catalog. I wouldn't use the colouring of a game mini to form an opinion on the movie. Now, if they are really like that in the movie, that could be a different story... I'm more concerned about the whole 3 movie deal, and the fact the 3rd movie was a last minute decision.

I'm pretty confident that's how they appear in the movie. But that doesn't mean I have to paint them that way.

I'm not convinced it was. Considering the reaction PJ got when he said that he'd like to make three movies but wouldn't, I'm pretty much on the side that he was fishing for fan support to push him over to to making the call or as a demonstration to WB to receive their approval.

As to the fish look of the Goblins, the great Goblin is accurate (as seen in the trailer) so I'd assume these are. The models displayed on boxes and the website tend to match the film versions. The colouration isn't what I don't like about them, it's the unusual and mismatched proportions, and no lack of large growths. I get that they aren't meant to be pretty, but the look ill.

Buuuut, it's not a deal breaker for me really. I would buy these, should I find them cheaper (or gifted them). However I'm happy to continue playing the previous iteration of the game with the mass of models I already own.

"I'm pretty much on the side that he was fishing for fan support to push him over to to making the call or as a demonstration to WB to receive their approval."

I don't see how true fans of the Hobbit would agree with decision. The Hobbit could easily, IMO, be done as 3-3 1/2 hr movie. 2 movies would be pushing it, 3 means they are making stuff up. What this tells me is that th studio saw $$$ and made the decision for the 3rd movie. Directors, even producers rarely have any say in such matters it is all the studio.

Fans of the Hobbit book, probably not. However, there is a large fanbase exclusive to the Lord of the Rings movies.
And try as I may, I can't get the biggest fan I know to read the books, while I've convinced many who though the movies were just "okay."

And for all looking for minis and dissatisfied by GW, there is always Mithril available as well - BTW the company with the longest-running Middle-earth range.
I find their design, which predates the movies, in many respects (primarily for the non-monster characters) superior to GW, especially since the proportions are more natural and not movie-designed.

Oh yes - from what I've heard, they're preparing a new "Hobbit" range as well. I wonder why ...

Cheers
Tolwen

The Mithril minis look pretty good, but aren't they out of scale with GW games?

AFAIK there's pretty much the same scale. They might look a bit different due to more realistic proportions tough. The GW LotR ones are already better than WH40K (for example) in this respect, but limbs and heads are still noticeably exaggerated. This is necessary though to create recognizable replicas of the actors' faces and equipment/dress.

I have bought some of the "monsters" (Trolls, Balrog, a few orcs etc.) from GW LotR line, and they're perfectly compatible in size with the Mithril ones.

Cheers
Tolwen

EDIT: I just checked, and they're both 32 mm scale. It's interesting how the choice of "internal" shaping influences the overall perception

I game each friday night with a guy who works for GW (forgeworld). He buys 1 of everything released as he gets a massive discount. Even he isnt buying EFGT set!

Most recently they have released some beautifl books as a fair price, but there minis are getting kinda pricey...and the troll set is way O.P