Jepp that is true, hehe
There are some german publisher, how makes real cool translations
For example: Rolemaster is published by 13mann
http://13mann.de/
Take a Look at the Products, they are all excellent Designed and translated

Role master in German! Are you crazy! It's insane enough in English!

I'm breaking out in a cold sweat just thinking about critical tables, fumble tables and weapon tables!

Let me make this very clear!

Rolemaster! Nein! Nein! Nein! Gott in himmel!

For this Tommy, the Rolemaster is over!

(apologies to anyone that actually speaks German)

Please, someone email C7 about us getting the hardcover in English !!

Please, Francesco, give us the hardcover in English !!

Everybody will buy it, I swear !!

If you make that a collectors edition with leather cover and something extra that makes the Germans say, "Why do the English get something better than us?", I'll take one!

The Loremaster Screen is due in December or January? Bummer. I was hoping for October. That's a useful little item. I hear it will have a map of Lake Town in it.

So I believe, but I'm sure there's a map out there on the internet if you really need one now.

But TOR is not a tactical miniatures game, so maps are not essential, other than journey maps of course!

I recently ordered the Atlas Of Middle Earth from amazon just in case I need some maps. Thank goodness for flatbed scanners!

This is a bit disappointing to me... I was a great promoter/supporter for the slipcase! ...so much that I opposed the German hardback for a while! I don't like the idea of both books in a single volume, and I simply LOVE how the slipcase came up in the end...

Francesco

No offence to the slipcase intended!

But you know how much thumbing through rpg books get and that leads to wear and tear. Hardbacks are more durable!

But a collectors edition with leather cover is something I would treasure and not let my filthy little players anywhere near!

So please don't be offended!

And the game is awesome!

What are you talking about ? Tommy, and German etc. ???
  
 I thought this forum or their members would handle fairly civil with each other! I am personally 20 years in an anti fascistic community. It would be nice if some people here let go there unqualified remarks. Thanks
  
 I wanted to say merely with that....C7  should  take a look at the German product! If its ready

I didn't mean to imply the LM screen would be a useful item because it would include a map of Lake Town. The LM screen is a useful item. Period. Full Stop. The map is extra. So is the booklet it will contain.

Ow, Francesco !! No offense intended !!

I love the slipcase, let me explain to you my real intentions...

I'd like to have both books together bound in hardcover to use during gameplay because it's more resistant and my precious slipcase will be safe in my bedroom so only I can pick it up at night to read it.



So in fact, many people will be buying two books I believe, the hardcover one to use and abuse in table during gameplay and the slipcase will be more like a special edition we all love to keep safe and with minimal use (and hopefully damage).

Slight misunderstanding on my part, but the maps in the slip case are beautiful and I'm sure the Lake Town one will be of similar quality.

I have thrown a Loremaster Screen together for myself, but look forward to the real thing and hope the booklet will provide plenty of inspiration to us all.

Don't worry guys, I didn't mean to sound bitter, the appreciation you are showing for the game is going to keep me content for a very long while! I only wanted to reveal part of the reasoning behind the slipcase idea.

Francesco

I think the fact that so many people are desperate for more material is another good indication of how much we appreciate what you have done!

Cheers. That is to be expected, though it does mean that we are not likely to see the Campaign Guide until March 2012, which makes me a little sad. 6 months is a little long between a core book and its first supplement of substance. The dice and screen should have been ready to go in the month or so following the release of the RPG to capture that initial surge of enthusiasm and to build on it.

FWIW I also love the two book split (its one of the few RPGs that uses this to its best advantage) and prefer a slipcase to a boxset (one of which would have been needed for this kind of product).

Essentially, a slipcase is a hardcover for most intents and purposes, though admittedly I tend to use PDFs at the table

Instead of a hardcover, I would be interested in being able to buy the components of the slipcase seperately. A second copy of the AB and more dice are the greatest priority. I am tempted to buy a second set but a second LMB and maps are not of as much use to me.

So, any call for the AB to be sold as a seperate product, even if for direct C7 sales?

Thank you mad_eminenz for posting about the ltd German version. I am from Munich and I will defintely order this version too.

After reading the last few pages, I felt the urge to let you "Tommy's" know that some of us understand ironic jokes about the war. ;-)

So my answer is: you should have let us win the war, then you would also get a limited leather bound TOR. Or maybe a leather bound limited edition of "Mein Kampf" ;-)

I am happy to own the UK version and I will now try to pre-order my German one.

Prost Mahlzeit,
The Kraut

I'm pretty in love with the game, since I'm a huge Tolkien fan.

If we don't see a hardcover in English, I'll have to buy another slipcase

I think Francesco has a great advantage within TOR's niche, since many customers are also long time fans of the professor (and willing to support the line with all forces).

Hopefully the upcoming movies will boost the sales to the stars !!

Oh no! Not more Gestapo!
I think there are already enough Gestapo uniforms in your Hollywood movies.

Let's put the leather to better use and make limited TOR products with it. But let's use artificial leather, since we are politically correct.

Who said "Dwarf"? "Vertically limited" it is!

@mad_eminenz: where did you find the info about the German limited version?

This is why we fans must supply adventures for each other until then. So, get busy with campaign ideas everyone!

I am going to keep enthusiasm no matter what. I really like the setting and I really like the game. I've been waiting for this for a long time! I have been so desperate to lead a group of roleplayers in Middle-earth that I found a fan-made rpg online, tweaked it and added magic spells from the miniatures game by Games Workshop just to create my own game. I've also spent countless hours working on a Savage Worlds version (only to find I was not the only one). And...I took the Decipher version and converted it to a percentile system loosely based on the old TSR Indiana Jones Adventure Game rules.

ALL of that is NOW OVER!!! I have TOR!!! Let the campaign ideas fly!!!

I have enough LotR material lying around to keep me busy until then. Plus I need to buy plenty of other Tolkien related books and merchandise too

However, from own experiences in this hobby, though a quarterly release schedule is just fine, there are a couple of things that really help maintain enthusiasm on a wider scale and capitalise on a new RPG release.

The first is having the next product scheduled with some certainty at the time the product it follows is released. So, when TOR is released, C7 should be saying "next is the dice sets in October". C7 has been communicative but it has tended to be a little piecemeal and confused as a result. A lot of customers are kept if they know what to expect.

The second is that the first substantial release after the rulebook should ideally be within 3 months of the rulebook, especially a Campaign Guide which essentially shows the RPG in a dynamic way. The GM screen and dice are good but they are filler items that add little substance. They should be able to be released at the time of the rulebook or shortly thereafter, capitalising the initial surge of interest. Without it, the risk is that those who arrive with that surge find themselves wondering what is going on with the RPG and drifting away.

I am not meaning to overly critical of C7. They have got the basics right, but that's what makes the few slip ups such a shame.

By the way, could someone of the staff please tell us which diceset colors will be available ??

=D

No worries. And, oh, I'm going to love the Lake Town map I'm sure. I love maps. I love maps of Middle-Earth even more.

Say, would you mind sharing the LM screen you created if you have it in digital form? I'm running a game soon and could use the help. I haven't GM'd a game in a while -- Yes The One Ring has brought me back to the table in that regard -- and I'm nervous!

I'd rather C7 push the sets back until they're done rather then rush things. I want the LotR version of The Great Pendragon or Enemy Within Campaigns, not a lousy Savage Worlds plot point outline.

I don't mean to get discouraged, but LM Screen by Dec or Jan they *hope*? That doesn't fill me with confidence.

Please note I'm not intending this as a personal attack on Angus or Francesco, and I don't want to sound like a MOARNOW kind of fan, it's just that RPG's with this much promise rarely deliver of late.

I totally agree in terms of priorities. Quailty over speed. But equally it doesn't mean long gaps in the release schedule will have no impact either

Just to be a little snarky, I'm sure that everyone discussing (note I didn't say complaining about ) design goals, marketing policy, and publishing schedules are all personally familiar and highly knowledgable about these things as they have designed, written, and published their own successful roleplaying games

End snark.

Just remember that we're talking about a licensed game, people. I would imagine that getting approval from the license-holder puts a serious kink in the turnaround times on game development.

If you had to meet that exact requirement level to discuss those topics, there would be almost no traffic on this forum. How many RPGs are there that can be considered truly successful?

To be clear, I don't have a problem with the next set being in two years instead of one. What I have a problem with is C7 keeping to the schedule of next set in August if that means that we get a LM screen, a rushed Campaign Guide and then on to the next set.

I'm not trying to be snarky either, but I don't really need plot points, I want a full-fledged campaign my players can dive into.

If it takes C7 5 more months to do a LM Screen, it kind of seems doubtful that we will get a strong release schedule for AEW before they move on to the next set. Three and out is becoming a popular publishing model, especially with games that go rule-light/narrative.

If they have the resources to do the LM Screen, Campaign Guide, Adventure Book, and one or two other releases while still making the next August date, then that would be awesome, because it means they've managed to match the release schedules of Paizo and Wizards.

@ hirobrumi
der eine Ring
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Maximum level of Opinion combined with a minimum level of Insight.

Welcome to the Internet caul.

/wolf

You make unnecessary assumptions in that statement. The Campaign Guide could already be in development and could have been so for some time. Looking simply at the next 6 months and assuming that it will underdeveloped is a stretch.

In terms of what we will likely get, I think the Great Pendragon Campaign is likely to be closest. I am not sure if that will match your need for a fully fledged campaign or not. However, given the general acclaim that book gets, I think it's a sensible way to balance a long term campaign without the page intense nature of writing many sessions of full adventures.

All I did for the LM screen was screen grabs from the PDF's from the combat sections and a few other bits.

Not sure how C7 would feel about me posting chunks of copyrighted material, so I suggest you just do the same for yourself and print it.

It could be. They could have 5 TOR products in simultaneous development for all anyone knows. As I said that would be awesome. Maybe the only reason the LM Screen is going to be in 5 months is because someone at Saul Zaentz has to sign off on the Laketown map. However, as you yourself said, it seems like the screen should have been ready to go soon after launch, and 6 months between releases can impact the line.

Saul Zaentz is the Tolkien fan number one enemy, damn I hate this guy!

Yeah it's like Grima Wormtongue handling distribution of the Red Book of Westmarch.

Pathetic, more then a little sad, and all too common.

Just saw this on the Cubicle 7 Facebook page -

New Releases 2012 - January - March

CB71003 Tales from Wilderland
The One Ring Adventure Book
Published by Cubicle 7 Entertainment / Sophisticated Games

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-..._57561803_n.jpg

Thats positive news. Thanks!

Can I just add that after over 33 years in this hobby there is nothing kills a game like a lack of new releases. The Idea of waiting a year or two for the next release.... Well, there will be no next release. They need a stream of releases to take is through to the hobbit film next year. Anything less and it'll be a dead duck regardless of quality

You are aware of the two further core sets planned for 2012 and 2013 calld Errantries of the King and War of the Ring, right?