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amiddlek	Posted: Oct 17 2012, 07:34 AM
Group: Members Posts: 4 Member No.: 2952 Joined: 22-September 12	I have seen a few references to Hate points in the manuals, but I am not clear on exactly how it works. What precisely are Hate points used for and in what situations?

King Kull	Posted: Oct 17 2012, 07:44 AM
Group: Members Posts: 26 Member No.: 2955 Joined: 24-September 12	Hate Poinst are like the equivalent of Hope Points for the foes of the players. Opponents have to spend Hate Points for the use of some of their Special Ablilities and if the Points equal 0 the adversaries are in a state like Miserable.

Valarian	Posted: Oct 17 2012, 07:46 AM
Group: Members Posts: 420 Member No.: 1943 Joined: 18-September 11	The Hate Points are used to power some of the creature abilities (see the ability descriptions). They're also reduced if the player uses the Intimidate Foe attack when their character is fighting in Forward stance. When the Hate Points are reduced to zero, the creature is Weary, with the same penalty as for PCs - rolls of 1 to 3 on the success dice are counted as zero. [Edit] IIRC, creatures with the Craven attribute will run away when their Hate Points reach zero. -------------------- Current EU RPG Group Games: European FG2 RPG Friday (8pm to 11pm UK time; Ultimate License) - Classic Traveller Sunday (8pm to 11pm UK time; Ultimate License) - The One Ring: Adventures over the Edge of the Wild Using Ultimate FGII and can accept unlicensed player connections on some of the games. ----------------- LOTRO - Brandywine Server Halbras - Hobbit Hunter / Jonab - Bree-folk Captain / Ardri - Dwarf Guardian / Halaberiel - Elf Hunter

amiddlek	Posted: Oct 17 2012, 08:46 AM
Group: Members Posts: 4 Member No.: 2952 Joined: 22-September 12	Re "When the Hate Points are reduced to zero, the creature is Weary" - where is this stated in the rule book - I can't find it? Are there other implications of being at 0 Hate? (A "state like miserable"?)

King Kull	Posted: Oct 17 2012, 09:06 AM
Group: Members Posts: 26 Member No.: 2955 Joined: 24-September 12	It's stated on p. 65 of the Loremaster's Book. And there is no state of Miserable for adversaries - they are a miserable lot... I have made an error as I wrote Miserable

Tensen01	Posted: Oct 17 2012, 05:43 PM
Group: Members Posts: 98 Member No.: 2934 Joined: 12-September 12	Something about this came up during my game... Can I, as the Loremaster, spend Hate to add an attribute bonus in the same way Hope can be used by the players? It's never clearly stated that I have found but the text of "Denizen of the Dark" implies I can. Denizen of the Dark "While the creature is in the dark (at night, underground, or in a dense forest) its Attribute level is doubled as far as all rolls are concerned (attack and Protection tests included)." The only time that would matter is if I was able to spend them. -------------------- I'm no Jon Hodgson, but I'm available for commissions! Visit My DeviantArt for examples and prices.

doctheweasel	Posted: Oct 17 2012, 06:19 PM
Group: Members Posts: 202 Member No.: 1808 Joined: 15-August 11	No. Attributes are only added to Favored skills/abilities. In those cases they are always added, without spending Hate. So Denizen of the Dark doubles the attribute bonus for Favored skills.

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Posted: Oct 17 2012, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE (doctheweasel @ Oct 17 2012, 04:19 PM)

No. Attributes are only added to Favored skills/abilities. In those cases they are always added, without spending Hate.

So Denizen of the Dark doubles the attribute bonus for Favored skills.

Ah okay, that is much more useful... I can't believe I missed seeing that. Chalk one up for not wanting to open the book whenever possible

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