With more new people joining these forums and more new topics being created a lot of discussion around official and unofficial rules changes/clarifications and additions is being lost (or at the very least is now hard to find).

I've compiled all the official errata (excluding spelling & grammatical) here along with some of the fan-based errata I've come across and saved.

The intent of this topic is not to replace robust discussion of specific rules (either RAW or house), but to collect such errata once it has been fleshed out in other topics. Errata here is defined as minor changes, clarifications and additions usually concerning a specific rule. Larger additions constituting a major rewrite or entire sub-system in their own right (e.g. Magic, Battle, Journey, Money) should have their own topic(s) and not be referenced here.

I'll maintain the referenced PDF as a 'living' resource that hopefully benefits both new and old Loremasters alike.

Thanks!

Yes, million thank yous.

It's good form to (1) ask to include people's contributions (since copyright attaches at writing, with or without declaration thereof, in most of the western world) and (2) to attach people's names to their contributions.

I'm not overly upset about not being asked, but not being credited is more than a bit untoward.

Points taken (and they will be actioned in the next draft), but I'd make some observations about copyright before we get too precious:

• This is a public forum
• No-one here is truly creating new material as we're discussing TOR, a copyrighted work, based on a series of copyrighted books
• It can be difficult to credit an individual when 'thier' idea is based on the work of others (in this case TOR, LoTR and other member contributions)
• Copyright/accreditation is not often sought by people who post with anonymous internet nick names

© Copyright 2012. All rights reserved.

None of that may really matter (I'm not as familiar with UK copyright law, and throwing international users into the mix messes things up), but I doubt any forum user is going to send you a cease and desist anyway.

I'd be more concerned about Cubicle 7. Not that they themselves would necessarily care, but the original copyright holder may. I've seen a lot of great fan material get squashed by the publishing company because the license owner is insanely strict and forces their hand. Happens with Warhammer and GW all the time.

Cubicle 7 also owns the background art that the document is laid out on top of. They may totally be cool with you using it, but it's possible they may not be. Probably the best thing to do is to send a message to Jon Hodgson and get an informal ok.

That said, you may consider putting a note near "Official Errata" to explain that it is collected from official sources rather than being officially from Cubicle 7. That's not quite clear from the title.


... also, from a nosey designer's perspective, Papyrus isn't really working for the document as a header. I would refer you to this site for some inspiration:
http://www.thehutt.de/tolkien/fonts.html

Copyright attaches even to things posted in public places. A person giving a speech still owns the copyright on recordings of that speech, even if made by other persons.

Derivative material is still separate copyright. It's encumbered by utility needs, but it's still copyrighted. (And additional rules for games don't actually count as derivative copyrights; restated paragraphs with errata applied do.) (TSR vs Mayfair Games, in the US, is the

Use of a pseudonym doesn't negate copyright protections, either. Nor does it make plagiarism of the material acceptable.

You are attempting to justify both copyright infringement and plagiarism.

The appropriate thing to do is to ask for and get permission to include such materials (negating the infringement issue), and to provide appropriate credit as to authorship, even if only by usernames.

The simple (and probably legally expeditious) thing is for C7 to note in the service agreement for forum use is that any and all communication published on this forum becomes the property of C7.

You show up, you post, it's theirs to use or not as they desire, no attribution required, no rights reserved.

And frankly, it's the safest assumption on the part of any user that this is the case.

Aramis: If you're offended, why don't you just link to where you first posted the material and drop it?

Ashley: "I've compiled all the official errata (excluding spelling & grammatical) here along with some of the fan-based errata I've come across and saved." -- Here Ashely indicates this is a compilation, not his/her own ideas.

All this talk about "copyrighting" fan-made errata that's based on source material that is, in fact, formally copyrighted both by companies (Cubicle 7) and individuals (the authors) is, in my opinion, ridiculous. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail before all fan-based material gets banned from this forum because some self-important fan starts threatening legal action.

No kidding. You'd think the product delays already caused by dealing with multiple layers of touchy, IP guardians would be a good clue that bringing up "credit" and "copyright" here is a great way to get the old WotC approach of draconian IP enforcement.

I'm not so sure they are cool with it. I think they just haven't taken the time to address it in a meaningful way on the forums. So, this is a good suggestion.

Ashley, have you talked with anyone from C7?

I'm offended by the not crediting the sources; I posted the material here for use, not for name-scrubbed reposting elsewhere. (Which is a weak form of plagiarism; the strong form of plagiarism would be to claim creation of others work. )

Specifically, the spell I posted in the house rules thread. If C7 wants to use it, I'm good with that, so long as I get credited. Definitely NOT errata. Definitely NOT Ashley's work, either, tho she does modify the first paragraph slightly.

I suggest you go read some copyright information circulars from either copyright.gov or http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/

I'm going to lock this thread first of all, so that C7 and Sophisticated Games can discuss this issue.

As a general guideline in the meantime, the best thing to do is always, always, talk to us in private if you would like to use our material in something you have created and wish to publish.