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Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:13 pm
by zedturtle
Falenthal wrote:In "Easing of Pain", wouldn't it fit better the world and the quote to recover a number of Endurance equal to the Heart, not the Body? Just my opinion. It would seem that it's more a recovery out of inspiration than the body naturally healing.
Understood, however that becomes tricky because heart is your normal healing factor as well. I was trying to go for something that would have some sort of trade off to it. Maybe use favoured heart for the temporary points?

Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:35 pm
by Falenthal
zedturtle wrote:
Falenthal wrote:In "Easing of Pain", wouldn't it fit better the world and the quote to recover a number of Endurance equal to the Heart, not the Body? Just my opinion. It would seem that it's more a recovery out of inspiration than the body naturally healing.
Understood, however that becomes tricky because heart is your normal healing factor as well. I was trying to go for something that would have some sort of trade off to it. Maybe use favoured heart for the temporary points?
If it was a consciouss decision, then leave Body there. In fact, I consider that if something should be changed, it would be the RAW! Having a healthy Body doesn't seem to relate at all with your Endurance or healing rate. I like the link between the "will to go on" and the capability of a hero to endure, but the counterpart is that Body is entirely disregarded.

I like your document a lot! Right now I'm only reading your teaser pages and saying what pops up to my mind. When it's done, I'll copy it to my tablet and read through it with more precision.

And the illustrations are wonderfully choosen.

Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:17 pm
by zedturtle
New versions of two pages and a new page to show off:

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ATTENTION SYSTEM WONKS (Including Glorelendil and Rocmistro): Please tear into (all of) these, let me know how they could be abused!

Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:18 pm
by Rich H
zedturtle wrote:ATTENTION SYSTEM WONKS (Including Glorelendil and Rocmistro): Please tear into (all of) these, let me know how they could be abused!
I think you need to be a bit cautious here; don't design these rules to deal with players that enjoy abusing systems - TOR is full of those exploits already and can be easy to 'beat' in that way. For me, this is fine, as it relies on players to engage a bit more honestly with the system and not try to break, abuse, or min-max the hell out of it.

Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:16 pm
by zedturtle
Rich H wrote:
zedturtle wrote:ATTENTION SYSTEM WONKS (Including Glorelendil and Rocmistro): Please tear into (all of) these, let me know how they could be abused!
I think you need to be a bit cautious here; don't design these rules to deal with players that enjoy abusing systems - TOR is full of those exploits already and can be easy to 'beat' in that way. For me, this is fine, as it relies on players to engage a bit more honestly with the system and not try to break, abuse, or min-max the hell out of it.
Understood. I do think that between the Shadow rules and my rules for Eye Awareness/Hope that most 'abuse' cases would be able to be handled fairly easily by the LM. But I am afraid of some synergy thing that I'm missing.

Plus, the Deadly Archery thread proves that you can't please everyone, no matter what.

Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:40 am
by zedturtle
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I'm coming up a page short or so, Warding will take page 11, but I don't really have anything planned for page 12, other than legalese. Anyone have any suggestions? (sorcery is right out. I did think about special undertakings, but I'm not sure any are needed).

Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:11 am
by Glorelendil
Full-page color artwork by Jon.

Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:39 am
by zedturtle
Glorelendil wrote:Full-page color artwork by Jon.
You pay the fee, I'll do the art direction. :)

Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:16 am
by zedturtle
For fun, a couple of alternate page designs...

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Re: Zed's Magic Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:48 pm
by Rich H
No opinion on which one to go with zed, they are all very nice.