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Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:19 am
by daddystabz
Does anyone here have or know of a cheat sheet for Fellowship Phase to make the choosing of options and things easier/quicker?
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:14 am
by Hermes Serpent
When you've made one please post the link here so we can all take a look.
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:17 am
by Yusei
Oh, by the way, I'm gathering stuff like undertakings from the various supplements in a wiki, and creating cheat sheets, but in french. I keep the wiki private in order to avoid copyright issues, but if any french player is interested I could share some of the stuff.
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:28 am
by daddystabz
Would you consider having English versions too? Please?
Yusei wrote:Oh, by the way, I'm gathering stuff like undertakings from the various supplements in a wiki, and creating cheat sheets, but in french. I keep the wiki private in order to avoid copyright issues, but if any french player is interested I could share some of the stuff.
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:33 am
by Yusei
Seeing as my versions are translated from the english books, I'd rather not translate them back
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:57 am
by daddystabz
Quick question about Undertakings:
If a player decides to do for his Undertaking "Gain a Patron" does the whole Company have to agree to do this also for their Undertaking and then the entire Company gains the patron? Or could individual players try to gain different patrons if available in their Fellowship Phase location?
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:10 pm
by Rich H
I think the whole of the Fellowship has to undertake gaining the Patron, although if you can see It working in your game for just one of your PCs to have the Patron then go for it. For me, personally, being a Patron is about supporting a Fellowship - and that means the whole not the part.
On a side note, I'm actually okay with different characters obtaining different places as Sanctuaries. An Beorning is more at home in Beorn's House than a man of Dale or an elf so has 'access' to more options.
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:01 pm
by DavetheLost
I think if different members of a Fellowship are going to have different places as Sanctuaries it makes sense for them to have different Patrons as well.
I can make a case for it from the novel. Merry goes to Mina's Tirith with Gandalf, establishing it as a Sanctuary and gaining Denethor as a Patron. Pippen goes to Edoras and gains Theoden King as a Patron. When they are reunited they don't seem to exchange Sanctuaries and Patrons.
However, for ease of Loremastering I would want to keep the Fellowship together as much as possible. Travel times are long enough that having everyone go to a separate Sanctuary for the winter and meet up in spring seems unwieldy.
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:16 pm
by Rich H
DavetheLost wrote:I think if different members of a Fellowship are going to have different places as Sanctuaries it makes sense for them to have different Patrons as well.
I did say "if you can see It working in your game for just one of your PCs to have the Patron then go for it". I was drawing out in my comment that Sanctuaries are different to Patrons. Sanctuaries are places, Patrons are people. Sanctuaries offer each person options to undertake during their Fellowship Phase as separate and distinct actions, Patrons are geared up to offering aid, advice, and support to a Fellowship. Obviously, if that Fellowship has been separated in-game in such a way to match up with what happens in LotR then yes it would fit, under normal gaming conditions where, let's face it, a group usually sticks together within the Adventuring Phase that wouldn't necessarily be the case.
Also, the complication of Patrons being offered to individuals rather than PCs is if for some reason, which I could see easily occurring in an RPG, the Patron dislikes one or two members of a Fellowship that don't have the NPC as a patron - if they chose not to aid them then that would mean potentially not aiding the group; of which PCs with them as a Patron are part of. Now, it would make for great RP opportunities for those who have the Patron to convince the Patron NPC of their group's need (including the PCs that are disliked), which could be fun if the gaming group was so inclined but for other groups that could simply be frustrating; hence we're back to my "if you can see It working in your game for just one of your PCs to have the Patron then go for it" comment.
DavetheLost wrote:I can make a case for it from the novel. Merry goes to Mina's Tirith with Gandalf, establishing it as a Sanctuary and gaining Denethor as a Patron. Pippen goes to Edoras and gains Theoden King as a Patron. When they are reunited they don't seem to exchange Sanctuaries and Patrons.
I'm not sure Denethor was a Patron nor Minas Tirith a Sanctuary. I could even argue that Théoden wasn't a Patron to Merry in the sense of what Patrons are used for in the game but like I said earlier if it works for your game and fits specific situations then go for it (which I think in these examples it does), if you want to follow the RAW then Patrons and Sanctuaries appear to be Fellowship group undertakings and not separate to individual PCs.
DavetheLost wrote:Travel times are long enough that having everyone go to a separate Sanctuary for the winter and meet up in spring seems unwieldy.
Hardly, that's all effectively 'off camera' travel and unless PCs return to their homelands during the Fellowship Phase it can affect Standing so the Fellowship splitting up during an FP is not a newly introduced element to the game from having separate Sanctuaries, it's something that already exists.
Re: Fellowship Phase cheat sheet
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:40 pm
by DavetheLost
Hope I didn't come off as argumentative Rich.