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I heard elsewhere that there are new rules for prolonged actions found on page 150 of the new book: the effects of failure have been expanded. This does not appear in the clarifications and additions document. Is this correct?

There is a table of possible outcomes; it's not hard and fast rules but suggestions for how to handle failing prolonged tests (since prolonged tests can be retried).

I don't want to sound petulant, but what other new additions are there that don't appear in the upgrade document? Can they be added? (I'm not asking you in particular, zedturtle.)

I'm not likely to buy the revised edition—I don't get to play often and it's difficult to justify spending that much money for a revision when I have no trouble with the set I have—but I'd like to be able to keep up with the rules that other people will be quoting at me without seeming too behind the times.

Hmm, I had thought the prolonged action table was one we'd added from the LM Screen (and we've not put those tables in the Clarifications Document, as they're already available) but it looks like its not. I'll see if we can add it to the document in the not too distant future.

*does the happy-dance*

Stormcrow wrote:I don't want to sound petulant, but what other new additions are there that don't appear in the upgrade document? Can they be added?

It's not so much a new rule as an example of an existing rule. However, since I beat Andrew with the hose until he allowed me to be good cop, here's the table from the new edition.



We can't do this for all the expanded examples and tables in the new editions, but on this occasion we will.

My concern is not so much with example tables—thanks for those, by the way—but with the new or apparently new rules they support.

For instance, in the first edition of The One Ring there appears to be no consequence for failure on prolonged actions—they are explained as actions where failure does not prevent you from trying again. From this it seems that as long as you have an indefinite amount of time, you will never fail eventually to achieve the action. The failure table above shows that prolonged actions have been clarified: the nature of the action determines whether you suffer negative consequences and whether you can continue, and rolling an Eye may also stop you from continuing.

Whatever text is in the revised edition supporting this change and others like it could be added to the clarifications document; including entire tables like these wouldn't be necessary.

Thanks for listening!

The actual text for prolonged actions remains unchanged between editions - we've just given a few examples of how you might adjudicate a failed roll on the second table, which you can see above.

Stormcrow wrote:I heard elsewhere that there are new rules for prolonged actions found on page 150 of the new book: the effects of failure have been expanded.

Was this on the RPGGeek forum discussion? (I'm just idly wondering whether you got this from my post or not.)

Andrew and Jon: thanks for posting the explanatory table here. I'm really glad to see that in the revised rules.

It would be great with some rule around failure for things like swimming Across the Anduin or scaling cliff walls.