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Re: Intimidate foe and rallying comrades
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:18 pm
by Rocmistro
Elf:
A fabulous application of narrative to the meta. As a LM, I would have raised a quirky eyebrow if my player attempted, 5 times in a row, to intimidate his foe. This is a great example that demands we be open minded, as Loremasters and be willing to share narrative control with our players.
Re: Intimidate foe and rallying comrades
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:45 pm
by Falenthal
Elfcrusher wrote:"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
OOC: Eye + 1 + 3 (Weary) = Fail
"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
OOC: 2 + 2 + 4 (Weary) = 6
"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
OOC: 4 + 1 + 5 (Weary) = 9
"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
OOC: 6 + 4 + 5 (Weary) = 6 = 15
LM: "Uncertainty creeps over his face. Minus one hate."
"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
OOC: G + 6 + 6 (Weary) = Extraordinary Success
LM: "He runs for it."
Ooooh! How I love this scene.
By the way, if you want to copy+paste the name, it's Iñigo, not Inigo. I guess USA keyboards don't have "ñ".
Great film.
Re: Intimidate foe and rallying comrades
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:27 am
by zedturtle
Rocmistro wrote:Oh and here was the prose I drafted for Amroth, my wood-elf-who-thinks-he's-a-high-elf, for his intimidate check against the Undead Troll:
"By sunlight and by Laurelin,
by starlight and by moon!
By silver of Telperion
by all light yet to come!
By the grace of Varda and her halo of stars, I consign you to oblivion, thing of evil! Go back to the pit that awaits you and your dark master!"
I was quite pleased with it, and thought an Extraordinary success a fitting roll
Since the "undead" troll was a thing animated by the GK, I thought the invocation of Elbereth was particularly fitting. Light into dark places, and all that. I was only mildly saddened by the Extraordinary success.
Re: Intimidate foe and rallying comrades
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:48 am
by Murcushio
Question. This might just be me being blind, but can I get a book/page number for where it's written down that foes that don't have Hate are considered Weary?
I had no idea that was a universal rule and neither does my GM.
Re: Intimidate foe and rallying comrades
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:08 am
by jamesrbrown
The One Ring Revised hardback p. 231 and The Loremaster's Guide p. 65 both describe how Hate works:
Hate
The Loremaster uses a creature’s Hate points rating to gauge its resolve and to fuel its special abilities. If a creature begins a round without Hate points, it is considered to be Weary.
Re: Intimidate foe and rallying comrades
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:29 am
by bluejay
Rocmistro wrote:Utterly irrelevant, in my opinion. He doesn't have to be shouting like a rock star to be intimidating his foe, especially if you consider his "intimidation" attempt as a projection of his willpower. Gandalf's assertion's of himself, and confidence in the face of one of the most powerful beings in Middle earth is what drains the Balrog of hate. In fact, his ability to keep control of his fear may have in fact been doubly "intimidating" to the Balrog, as any mastery of fear by its enemy would have shown itself to be immune to his terror, and thus powerful.
As an aside, and this isn't directed so much at you, Stormcrow, but the movie-hating is getting old. It has many failings, yes, but Ian McKellan's interpretation of Gandalf at this scene is a good one. And even if it one thinks it isn't, one of the up-sides of referencing the movie is that everyone can talk about it with roughly the same shared experience, whereas what goes on in our mind's eye is as different as each reader.
Yeah I've got to completely agree here!
To lighten the mood lets learn about acting with Sir Ian himself ...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2yrp6 ... shortfilms