Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

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Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Corvo » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:48 pm

I'm working on the Magica Treasure Index for my fellowship, and I'm thinking about a variation upon the Warding-spell quality:

Protection-spell (better name?)
Craftsmanship: Elven
Item: Armour, Headgear, Shield
Special: Bane
An item bestowed with such a Quality gives you a bonus to your Valour or Wisdom roll when resisting Fear, Corruption or Dreadful Spells caused by a Bane creature. The Bonus is equal to your Wisdom or Valour, whichever is lower.

Do you see any problem with it?

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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Glorelendil » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:52 pm

Corvo wrote:I'm working on the Magica Treasure Index for my fellowship, and I'm thinking about a variation upon the Warding-spell quality:

Protection-spell (better name?)
Craftsmanship: Elven
Item: Armour, Headgear, Shield
Special: Bane
An item bestowed with such a Quality gives you a bonus to your Valour or Wisdom roll when resisting Fear, Corruption or Dreadful Spells caused by a Bane creature. The Bonus is equal to your Wisdom or Valour, whichever is lower.

Do you see any problem with it?
I like it conceptually, but there's a lot of "or" in that description, which makes it sound like a swiss army knife enchantment. Some options:
- "...when using Valour to resist a special ability of a Bane creature, add your Wisdom to the roll"
- The inverse: add Valour to Wisdom rolls
- Both? That's again sounding a bit too much to me, though. It could be two separate qualities, so that if you really want both it uses 2 slots.

I'd also make it only a helm. The things you're resisting are all mind-effecting, not physical effects, so shield or armor feels like a poor fit to me. Or maybe close combat weapons.
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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by arthyn » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:59 pm

Elfcrusher wrote:armor feels like a poor fit to me
I see what you did there. :lol:

And how about Limsanar for a better name. Roughly Clear Mind using a mix of Sindarin and Quenya.

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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Glorelendil » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:18 pm

arthyn wrote:
Elfcrusher wrote:armor feels like a poor fit to me
I see what you did there. :lol:

And how about Limsanar for a better name. Roughly Clear Mind using a mix of Sindarin and Quenya.
Colorful, but I think I'd vote for ease-of-use over literary value. Not many players will be able to translate Quenya and Sindarin on the fly.

Maybe call one "Strength of Mind" (add Valour to Wisdom rolls) and the other..."Better Part of Valour"? Ok, too clever...
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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Corvo » Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:23 pm

Elfcrusher wrote:
Corvo wrote:I'm working on the Magica Treasure Index for my fellowship, and I'm thinking about a variation upon the Warding-spell quality:

Protection-spell (better name?)
Craftsmanship: Elven
Item: Armour, Headgear, Shield
Special: Bane
An item bestowed with such a Quality gives you a bonus to your Valour or Wisdom roll when resisting Fear, Corruption or Dreadful Spells caused by a Bane creature. The Bonus is equal to your Wisdom or Valour, whichever is lower.

Do you see any problem with it?
I like it conceptually, but there's a lot of "or" in that description, which makes it sound like a swiss army knife enchantment. Some options:
- "...when using Valour to resist a special ability of a Bane creature, add your Wisdom to the roll"
- The inverse: add Valour to Wisdom rolls
- Both? That's again sounding a bit too much to me, though. It could be two separate qualities, so that if you really want both it uses 2 slots.

I'd also make it only a helm. The things you're resisting are all mind-effecting, not physical effects, so shield or armor feels like a poor fit to me. Or maybe close combat weapons.
Thank you Elfcrusher, I think you are right on both points:

The object I'm working on is effetvely a Helm, with a Bane against Spiders.
I was looking at something that give protection against the spiders spells and lures (in DoM there are a lot).
Probably I would settle on bonus to Wisdom rolls equal to Valour... Or maybe twice the Valour, like the greater enchantments?

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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Woodclaw » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:21 am

Following Elfcrusher's suggestion maybe it would be better to make this quality apply only to either Wisdom or Valour rolls, both is chosen twice.
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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Corvo » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:15 pm

What about:

Protection-spell (again, I need a better name)
Craftsmanship: Elven
Item: Headgear, close combat weapon
Special: Bane
An item bestowed with such a Quality gives you a bonus to your Wisdom rolls when you are fighting against a Bane creature equal to your Valour.

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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Woodclaw » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:59 am

Corvo wrote:What about:

Protection-spell (again, I need a better name)
Craftsmanship: Elven
Item: Headgear, close combat weapon
Special: Bane
An item bestowed with such a Quality gives you a bonus to your Wisdom rolls when you are fighting against a Bane creature equal to your Valour.
I don't get what you mean with "equal to your Valour", is it a reference to the creature's Attribute Level?
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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Hermes Serpent » Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:43 am

"An item bestowed with such a Quality gives you a bonus to your Wisdom rolls when you are fighting against a Bane creature equal to your Valour." should probably read:

An item bestowed with such a Quality gives you a bonus equal to your Valour on any Wisdom rolls while fighting against a Bane creature.
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Re: Custom Enchanted Quality: opinions?

Post by Corvo » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:49 am

I copied the format from Rivendell's Warding-spell:
"An item bestowed with such a Quality gives you a bonus to your Parry rating when you are fighting against a Bane creature equal to your Wisdom or Valour, whichever is lower".
But Hermes Serpent's wording is clearer :D

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