Woodland Bow aid

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HotSnow50
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Woodland Bow aid

Post by HotSnow50 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:13 am

If my Elf took the Bow, Sword, Dagger weapon set, but he also took the "Woodland Bow" reward for going Valor>Wisdom, does that change the stats of the Bow he starts with?

As in, do I (in his inventory) state that he has a WOODLAND BOW, Sword and Dagger? As in, does he have an actual item called WOODLAND BOW? And if so, does that bow have different stats than Damage 5, Edge 10, Injury 14, Enc 1 like the regular "Bows?"

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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by Morgoth » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:21 am

I'm not positive I understand your question. But yes, he would have a woodland bow. It would have the same exact stats as a regular bow, except you'd be able to make one extra opening volley.
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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by HotSnow50 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:27 am

Morgoth wrote:I'm not positive I understand your question. But yes, he would have a woodland bow. It would have the same exact stats as a regular bow, except you'd be able to make one extra opening volley.
Perfect, exactly the info I needed. Thank you, Morgoth!

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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by Corvo » Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:02 pm

By the way, in the reward list (page 118) it's called "Woodland Bow (bow)"
This is to say that it's exactly a bow, just with the extra rules described in the paragraph.

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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by HotSnow50 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:03 pm

Corvo wrote:By the way, in the reward list (page 118) it's called "Woodland Bow (bow)"
This is to say that it's exactly a bow, just with the extra rules described in the paragraph.
Cool, so, when I see that the parenthetical "( )" is used am I supposed to glean that "whatever bow that reward's possessor uses would likely be a "Woodland Bow" style of THAT particular bow and therefore capable of a second initial volley?

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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by Glorelendil » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:10 pm

HotSnow50 wrote:
Corvo wrote:By the way, in the reward list (page 118) it's called "Woodland Bow (bow)"
This is to say that it's exactly a bow, just with the extra rules described in the paragraph.
Cool, so, when I see that the parenthetical "( )" is used am I supposed to glean that "whatever bow that reward's possessor uses would likely be a "Woodland Bow" style of THAT particular bow and therefore capable of a second initial volley?
Specifically, it means that a woodland bow is always a "bow" and never a "great bow". See "Splitting Axe" to see counter-example.
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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by HotSnow50 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:28 pm

Elfcrusher wrote:Specifically, it means that a woodland bow is always a "bow" and never a "great bow". See "Splitting Axe" to see counter-example.
Being new to the game, I wouldn't know much about similarities between weapons of the same type, so this might be a stupid question but, are all the "BOWs" in the game possessing the same stats? For instance does a "BOW" (not a GREAT BOW) purchased in Esgaroth going to have the exact same stats as a "BOW" found in a Troll Horde in the Ettinmoors?

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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by Glorelendil » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:32 pm

HotSnow50 wrote:
Elfcrusher wrote:Specifically, it means that a woodland bow is always a "bow" and never a "great bow". See "Splitting Axe" to see counter-example.
Being new to the game, I wouldn't know much about similarities between weapons of the same type, so this might be a stupid question but, are all the "BOWs" in the game possessing the same stats? For instance does a "BOW" (not a GREAT BOW) purchased in Esgaroth going to have the exact same stats as a "BOW" found in a Troll Horde in the Ettinmoors?
Nope. "Bow" and "Great Bow" are two different weapons, in the family "Bows".

Bow
Damage 5, Edge 10, Injury 14, Encumbrance 1

Great Bow
Damage 7, Edge 10, Injury 16, Encumbrance 3

A Keen, Fell Great Bow is a dangerous weapon, but a little unwieldy in a dense forest.
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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by zedturtle » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:40 pm

EC: I think you might have misparsed HS's question. A Bow is a Bow. But qualities can change the stat line. And Rewards are thing the player has earned... a LM should not take away a Woodland Bow after it's been paid for, et cetera.
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Re: Woodland Bow aid

Post by Majestic » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:40 pm

You might take a look at p. 135 of the Adventurer's Book, too, as it spells out that the player decides whether a Reward is an upgrade to an existing weapon, something newly discovered on a bow the character already had, or an entirely new weapon.

It even uses a Woodland Bow as one of the examples.
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