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Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:26 pm
by Beleg
I like your ideas Thror. I might be being dumb here, but what's the Forsaken Inn? Also, isn't Butterbur the innkeeper of the Prancing Pony when Frodo is there? Surely it'd be a different innkeeper in the current time period?

P.S. I also feel Lorien should have been included in Heart of the Wild

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:56 pm
by farinal
My heart actually skipped a beat when I saw Haldir in the Heart and looked at the index like crazy scanning the word "Lorien" but sadly it wasn't there :(

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:58 pm
by Mim
Beleg, here's what Aragorn told the Hobbits about it:

‘I don’t know if the Road has ever been measured in miles beyond the Forsaken Inn, a day’s journey east of Bree,’ answered Strider. ‘Some say it is so far, and some say otherwise. It is a strange road, and folk are glad to reach their journey’s end, whether the time is long or short.’

BTW, Barliman Butterbur is the innkeep at the time of the War of the Ring. Still, I agree that I'd love to see them write-up the Bree-land. Ditto for Lórien.

Considering what they've released to date, I can't wait for their future books.

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:43 pm
by ThrorII
Yes BARLIMAN Butterbur is the innkeeper at the time of the War of the Ring. I believe (possibly wrongfully) that the inn had been in the Butterbur family for some time.

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:23 am
by Yusei
I have read somewhere (possibly in the appendices) that the inn belonged to Butterburs for generations, and added a Butterbur NPC.

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:59 pm
by Mim
I don't believe that's in the books themselves. Gandalf knows Barliman from his travels, but never mentions that a Butterbur has run the place for sometime leading up to the War of the Ring. Perhaps you found that in another game? MERP & the computer games are notorious for adding things ;)

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:09 pm
by Yusei
I don't rely on MERP modules, but it's more than likely that I read it on some unreliable wiki :) In any case, it is believable, and helps ground the story in the world, IMO.

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:13 pm
by Otaku-sempai
ThrorII wrote:Yes BARLIMAN Butterbur is the innkeeper at the time of the War of the Ring. I believe (possibly wrongfully) that the inn had been in the Butterbur family for some time.
Robert Foster backs this up in The Complete Guide to Middle-earth. He writes of The Princing Pony:
The inn at Bree, owned and operated for many generations by the Butterbur family.
I'll admit, I am not finding where Tolkien mentions previous generations of Butterburs either, but I am sure that I've seen such a reference somewhere.

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:40 am
by ThrorII
Found it.

It is in the Prologue to the Fellowship of the Ring, 'Concerning Pipeweed' :

' ...the old inn of Bree, the Prancing Pony, that has been kept by the family of Buuttterbur from time beyond record.'

Knew I read it somewhere!

Re: Future Supplement and sourcebook ideas?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:57 pm
by mordor71
A sourcebook detailing mordor, stats for the nine riders, moria, minas morgul and the surrounding territories of middle earth. Middle earth should be expaned upon on all accounts, giving a true setting life. Lorien, bree, and hopefully in the end, enough sourcebooks that will expand on just about everything middle earth.