Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

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Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by ykauss » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:35 pm

I have a quick question about rolling the Feat dice twice and keeping the best or worst result.
In the case of a Fear test, a Barding character, due to its Cultural Blessing: Stout-hearted, can roll the Feat dice twice and keep the best result.
What if the Barding character is testing Fear against an invisible Ringwraith?
Thr Ringwaraith would force any character to roll the Feat dice twice and use the worst result.

How should a Loremaster handle this situation?

Thank you guys.

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Re: Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by Yusei » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:40 pm

Generally, I'd rule in favour of the PC. But you could also have him roll twice and keep the best (A), roll twice and keep the best (B), and then pick the worst between A and B.

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Re: Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by Glorelendil » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:40 pm

Ooh...good catch. I'd use the D&D 5e rule and have them cancel.
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Re: Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by beckett » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:03 pm

Another option is to apply the rule for Invoking Flaws | Feat Re-roll found on page 227 of the Revised book:

"If a hero was already entitled by a special ability to roll the Feat die twice and keep the best result, then the Flaw neutralizes the ability and lets him roll the Feat die just once."
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Re: Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by ykauss » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:29 pm

Thank you guys.

I thought about the D&D 5e rule to have the benefit and the penalty canceling each other whatsoever.
It's pretty much the same idea presented by the Flaw Rule.

I suspect the player would prefer the suggestion of rolling 2 Feat dice twice (they love to roll dice).

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Re: Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by Glorelendil » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:47 pm

Or roll 3 and take the middle. :-)
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Re: Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by Morgoth » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:49 pm

If you did want to roll twice twice (aka quadruple), then the question becomes whether you:

1) Roll two dice, take the best. Roll two dice, take the best. Take the worst of those two.
or
2) Roll two dice, take the worst. Roll two dice, take the worst. Take the best of those two.

I believe statistically, option #1 is slightly favorable.
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Re: Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by Brandiwise » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:22 am

In this instance I'd probably go with the 5e role in my own campaign and have them cancel each other out.

That also works in 5e where you get more than one source of 'advantage' or 'disadvantage' - they don't stack. So it's only ever roll with advantage, roll with disadvantage, or roll normally.
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Re: Rolling the Feat dice twice: best or worst result

Post by Falenthal » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:43 pm

beckett wrote:Another option is to apply the rule for Invoking Flaws | Feat Re-roll found on page 227 of the Revised book:

"If a hero was already entitled by a special ability to roll the Feat die twice and keep the best result, then the Flaw neutralizes the ability and lets him roll the Feat die just once."
I use this idea/rule. I think it's the easiest way to handle the situation, without lots of debate.

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