Rearward Stance and Range

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Willis
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Rearward Stance and Range

Post by Willis » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:21 pm

I have 2 characters that want to use bows as their primary weapon, and the party totals 5 characters. It says that a character can only take a rearward stance if 2 others are protecting him. Cant he same 2 characters count for both of them, or will one of them have to move out of rearward stance?

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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by zedturtle » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:37 pm

The way I run things, no. Each archer needs to have two close combat buddies in order to keep the enemy engaged and not able to close with the archer.

I do allow terrain and special efforts to allow better that the 2:1 rule when it's appropriate.
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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by Rocmistro » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:56 pm

Is one of your players are Woodsman with a hound of mirkwood? He can teach it to work as a "body" for providing the proper ratio.
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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by Willis » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:59 pm

No, unfortunately not. I'd have counted that as a defender as well.

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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by Rocmistro » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:02 pm

Yep. I think you're group can only have 1 full time archer then. Keep in mind that this doesn't preclude them ALL from making opening volleys, though. And it's also a decent judgment to rule that the terrain is favorable to them for this, especially if they are defending. Also, I would consider letting a player spend a bonus combat die to make a ranged attack when he normally could not.
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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by Majestic » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:03 pm

I don't ordinarily allow it, either. This has the added benefit of encouraging more characters to choose something other than Rearward.
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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by zedturtle » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:23 pm

Majestic wrote:I don't ordinarily allow it, either. This has the added benefit of encouraging more characters to choose something other than Rearward.
I'm not a 100% sure what you meant, but it did make me think that maybe a 2:1 or 1:1 requirement for Defensive might not be a bad idea. Maybe let people Protect Companion for free if you went that route.
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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by Majestic » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:03 pm

zedturtle wrote:
Majestic wrote:I don't ordinarily allow it, either. This has the added benefit of encouraging more characters to choose something other than Rearward.
I'm not a 100% sure what you meant, but it did make me think that maybe a 2:1 or 1:1 requirement for Defensive might not be a bad idea. Maybe let people Protect Companion for free if you went that route.
Whoops; I was conflating Defensive and Rearward. :oops: You're right, though, that such a concept might not be such a bad idea, if one is having the problem of their characters always choosing Defensive stances.
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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by Beleg » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:15 pm

Personally I've always ignored the 2:1 rule and 'assumed' that the archers would just back off a ways, within reason of course. Though my players have 'rebooted' as it were with new characters since we first started, and in doing so have actually ended up fitting into the ratio regardless due to favouring other weapons over bows.

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Re: Rearward Stance and Range

Post by Stormcrow » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:19 pm

Beleg wrote:Personally I've always ignored the 2:1 rule and 'assumed' that the archers would just back off a ways, within reason of course.
And the orcs they were fighting would politely decline to advance on them? ;)

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