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Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:02 am
by Deadmanwalking
Looking at that document, in it Wilfred is listed with Body 2, Heart 7, and Wits 6. That's clearly an error (though his Favored ratings seem right).

Biarnor is also listed with Parry of 7, 10 Lightly, and Hope 15. Both of those seem rather deeply wrong.

Radegund's armor is listed as a mail shirt...which is also mildly wrong.

Luthwen is also listed at several skill points over where she should be in skills given her Bow skill. Contrariwise, Egil is missing his Explore 2 and Persuade 3 for being a Barding of Dale.

No background advice on Hobbit Wardens, sorry. :(

Just thought I'd note the mechanical issues I spotted looking through these (pretty cool) characters...

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:53 am
by zedturtle
Yepesnopes wrote:A very short practical comment.

Glorelendil, in my opinion in this game it is suicidal to play with a PC with travel 0 (Luthwen) or travel 1 (Walfred Took). The minimum to start with I would say it is travel 2, although I always give my starting PCs a 3 in travel.

Looking at the document I will for sure increase the Travel or Biarnor to 2
Yepes, are you sure that you are looking at the document? Everyone other than Biarnor has a 2 or more in Travel and Biarnor has TBHC to help him (and everyone else) out.

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:58 am
by zedturtle
Deadmanwalking wrote:Looking at that document, in it Wilfred is listed with Body 2, Heart 7, and Wits 6. That's clearly an error (though his Favored ratings seem right).

Biarnor is also listed with Parry of 7, 10 Lightly, and Hope 15. Both of those seem rather deeply wrong.

Radegund's armor is listed as a mail shirt...which is also mildly wrong.

Luthwen is also listed at several skill points over where she should be in skills given her Bow skill. Contrariwise, Egil is missing his Explore 2 and Persuade 3 for being a Barding of Dale.

No background advice on Hobbit Wardens, sorry. :(

Just thought I'd note the mechanical issues I spotted looking through these (pretty cool) characters...
Ack! A consequence of revisonism, I'm sure. I will go through and fix up all of these issues. Thanks!

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:10 am
by Yepesnopes
zedturtle wrote:Yepes, are you sure that you are looking at the document? Everyone other than Biarnor has a 2 or more in Travel and Biarnor has TBHC to help him (and everyone else) out.
Yes, yes, I think my comment was not clear.

The first part of my post was addressed only to Glorelendil (I have to look for a short version of your name, Elf was faster to write :) )

The second part of my post was directed to the characters in your document, where indeed, only Biarnor has travel 1.

Then, TBHC applies to all members of the fellowship, which is a great virtue to have no matter how many dice in travel one has. Yet, one single die is just not enough, the character is going to suffer a lot during journeys. Journeys are a big part of the game and one can accumulate fatigue really fast (it is 2 or 3 per failed test with the revised edition of the game). I can say with nearly 100% conviction that the player of such character is going to spend his first APs in rising Travel form 1 to 2. I would just spare him the suffering and give him an initial value of 2 in travel and let him decide more freely afterwards where to invest the APs.

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:18 am
by zedturtle
Yepesnopes wrote:Then, TBHC applies to all members of the fellowship, which is a great virtue to have no matter how many dice in travel one has. Yet, one single die is just not enough, the character is going to suffer a lot during journeys. Journeys are a big part of the game and one can accumulate fatigue really fast (it is 2 or 3 per failed test with the revised edition of the game). I can say with nearly 100% conviction that the player of such character is going to spend his first APs in rising Travel form 1 to 2. I would just spare him the suffering and give him an initial value of 2 in travel and let him decide more freely afterwards where to invest the APs.
Agreed, and I will try to spend some time seeing if I can do it. But since these guys primary purpose in life is to be one-time con characters (travelling through lands with a base TN 12 Fatigue test), we are talking about making two or three TN 10 tests... yeah, he might fail some, but that also shows the other part of the Travel system.

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:19 am
by zedturtle
Oh, I should also say that I anticipate Hope expenditure will be quite massive for this game. After all, if it's your only session with the character, why would you save Hope for later?

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:16 pm
by Yepesnopes
zedturtle wrote:But since these guys primary purpose in life is to be one-time con characters (travelling through lands with a base TN 12 Fatigue test), we are talking about making two or three TN 10 tests... yeah, he might fail some, but that also shows the other part of the Travel system.
zedturtle wrote:Oh, I should also say that I anticipate Hope expenditure will be quite massive for this game. After all, if it's your only session with the character, why would you save Hope for later?
I see, that makes all the difference. I have no comments then ;)

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:52 pm
by Glorelendil
Yepesnopes wrote: The first part of my post was addressed only to Glorelendil (I have to look for a short version of your name, Elf was faster to write :)
"Elf" still works for me, although it may confuse others...

Walfred: I like the elements Zed suggested...he was a Bounder who liked to occasionally head to Bree, and somehow got sucked into something having to do with the Easterly Inn. Maybe in the Prancing Pony he overheard some ill-looking thugs discussing a plot (Small, Elusive...they didn't notice him sitting there) to rob a caravan heading to the Easterly Inn, and he followed to interfere. One thing led to another and suddenly he found himself in the High Pass, and decided to keep going.

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:03 pm
by zedturtle
Ok, corrections made and something sort of like a background written for Walferd.

Check it out here.

Re: Character Backgrounds

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:11 am
by Deadmanwalking
zedturtle wrote:Ok, corrections made and something sort of like a background written for Walferd.

Check it out here.
Sadly, Biarnor still has 15 Hope (instead of the 12 he should) and Egil still lacks some Explore and Persuade.

Other than that, looks good.