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Re: Stacking

Post by poosticks7 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:54 pm

I haven't got time to go chasing Quotes and References - but if you look at the Tolkien Gateway entry for the Galadhrim it explains it there.

Here is a snippet:

In the beginning the Elves of Lórien were a small and scattered people, but after the War of Wrath at the beginning of the Second Age many of the Sindar of Beleriand migrated eastward. The Silvan Elves of Lórien welcomed them. The coming of the Sindar was a great boost to the power and culture of the Silvan Elves. The Silvan language was replaced by Sindarin.

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Re: Stacking

Post by Stormcrow » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:41 pm

bluejay wrote:I've read at least a couple of references to him being Teleri.
The Sindar are one branch of the Teleri.

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Re: Stacking

Post by bluejay » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:44 pm

Ah yes, I need to read The Silmarillion again!
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Re: Stacking

Post by Láthspell » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:59 pm

For that matter, Galadriel is half Teleri herself. Her mother was one of the Falmari (Sea Elves) which is the branch of the Teleri which crossed the Sea into Aman.

Celeborn is of the Teleri known as the Sindar (Grey Elves) who travelled to the but decided to stay behind and search for their lord Thingol, who have lost himself into the beauty of a Maia named Melian.

A third group of Elves called the Nandor had broken off from the Teleri earlier, having no wish to cross the daunting peaks of the Misty Mountains.

The Nandor further broke into two groups, the Laiquendi (Green Elves) who eventually did travel further West (though they many have taken a more circuitous route through what would become known as the Gap of Rohan) eventually settling in the forests and rivers in the shadows of the Blue Mountains, and the Silvan Elves who start East of the Misty Mountains in the Greenwood.

The Silvan Elves themselves divided once more into two groups that in the Third Age would become known as the Wood-elves of Mirkwood and the Galadhrim (Tree people) of Lorien.

The Wood-elves fell under the rule of a group of Sindar fleeing the destruction of Beleriand during the War of Wrath at the end of the First Age, namely Oropher. The Galadhrim were ruled by their own King Amdir of the Nandor. Both Kings were killed during the Last Alliance at the end of the Second Age and their sons Thranduil and Amroth assumed the the kingships.

Thranduil ruled throughout the Third Age and into the Fourth, but Amroth died seeking his lost love Nimrodel. As the Galadhrim were now Kingless, Galadriel and Celeborn arrived to fill the vacancy.

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Re: Stacking

Post by Falenthal » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:41 am

Thanks, Láthspell, for the summary. The migrations of the elves are really hard to memorize!

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Re: Stacking

Post by Láthspell » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:39 pm

You are quite welcome, Falenthal.

If you wan to see something that makes the sundering of the Elves look like childs' play look into Elrond Half-Elven's genealogy sometime.

Consider that Elrond's wife, Celebrían, is the daughter of Galadriel who is one fourth Vanyar, one fourth Noldor, and half Falmari. Celebrían is therefore one eighth Vanyar, one eighth Noldor, one fourth Falmari, and half Sindar.

By comparison Elrond's genealogy makes hers look positively benign by comparison. ;)

Without going into details of the family tree, Elrond is: three eighths Edain (i.e. the race of Men from which the Dúnedain are descended), five sixteenths Sindar, five thirty-seconds Vanyar, three thirty-seconds Noldor, and one sixteenth Maiar.

Having fun yet? ;)

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Re: Stacking

Post by Angelalex242 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:41 pm

Sure. Now add in Arwen=Aragorn and what their son's lineage actually is. ;)

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Re: Stacking

Post by Falenthal » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:29 pm

:lol:

Robocop's lineage was easier to learn: Half human, half robot, all police.

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Re: Stacking

Post by Angelalex242 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:08 pm

Back on the actual topic, does Eye Awareness also go up 2 for an elf with Beauty of the Stars and Skill of the Eldar on every G Rune?

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Re: Stacking

Post by Falenthal » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:22 pm

If a companion uses a Virtue that is considered to be
‘magical (see box), raise the Eye Awareness by 1 point.

The following Virtues are considered to be magical for
the purposes of increasing Eye Awareness:

High Elves of Rivendell: read the descriptions for Beauty
of the Stars and Skill of the Eldar
BEATY OF THE STARS
For every Gandalf result on the Feat die you get during the interaction step pick one of the following bonuses:
• When resolving the encounter, the company counts as having scored an additional success.
• After resolving an encounter with Mortals, choose a subject: that character retains only the vaguest memory of what was said or agreed. This effect counts as a magical virtue for the purposes of increasing a company’s Eye Awareness.
SKILL OF THE ELDAR
When you roll a Gandalf result on your Feat die using a Common skill, you are additionally considered to have rolled a special icon 6 [extras level of success]. When you complete an action with a Aresult, something
unusual has taken place, something that mortal onlookers can only attribute to ‘Elf-magic’.
I would say Eye Awareness goes up 2 points. But Beauty of the Stars only counts as magical if a Gandalf is rolled during the interaction step AND the player chooses the second option, about making the mortal forget a theme.

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