Combat Archery

[zedturtle]

This video is the equivalent of a six year old filming himself pointing his finger and shouting, "Pew! Pew! Pew!"

I fail to understand how this adds anything to the conversation.

[Woodclaw]

That was something I noticed too, I don't know if it's a consequence of the extremely high rate of fire combined with the low quality of the video, but I got the distinct impression that he does half-draws most of the time. In terms of speed at short range that makes a lot of sense, but I think it wouldn't be that efficient at longer ranges.

Then you have to wonder how much draw was used to penetrate the chain mail. That would still be a nasty wound.

Part of his point in making the video is that bows can be effective weapons at what we'd consider close range. None of his techniques are designed to be effective at 100 yards or whatever.

People have pointed out that he's using a more powerful bow during the chainmail penetration segment. But I wonder if his technique would work with a traditional bow at full draw. That's really what he needs to do to silence his critics... a good high-speed camera and a traditional bow. I doubt he's 100% right about historical techniques but I doubt he's 100% wrong either.

That's kind of my point. I'm not saying that his technique is wrong. Actually I'm pretty positive that it should really work, but I think that the combination of lack of data (they didn't show the specifications of the bows he uses) and low quality photage might led people to discount the results or to overhype them.

[Glorelendil]

I also wonder how many takes each stunt required.

[codesmithKarl]

Some informed critique of the video
http://geekdad.com/2015/01/danish-archer

[Fridokind Wargaug]

Ok, so for actual game play we know following:
It is possible to fight in forward stance with a bow, but you need a lot of skill (TN +6 e.g.). However, if you only wear leather armour and you do the stupid dancing, it gets harder to hit you, let's say TN +6. Ergo, you can fight in forward stance, but from a game point perspective, it's stupid...

[zedturtle]

Ok, so for actual game play we know following:
It is possible to fight in forward stance with a bow, but you need a lot of skill (TN +6 e.g.). However, if you only wear leather armour and you do the stupid dancing, it gets harder to hit you, let's say TN +6. Ergo, you can fight in forward stance, but from a game point perspective, it's stupid...

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Thanks for the very informative link above, as well.

I'd like to think that he's got to have considered some of this stuff... After all, what's the next step? If he's looking for legitimacy, Mythbusters/Legit news/information show seems to be the way to go. That, or showing off in front of experts, where the editing angle can't be done at all.

As I said before, I don't think that this is 100% real... but it's a fun way of thinking about archers as a more dynamic sort of person.

[Yepesnopes]

Now I see where the designers of D&D get their ideas from!
Impressive skills nonetheless!

[Woodclaw]

Ok, so for actual game play we know following:
It is possible to fight in forward stance with a bow, but you need a lot of skill (TN +6 e.g.). However, if you only wear leather armour and you do the stupid dancing, it gets harder to hit you, let's say TN +6. Ergo, you can fight in forward stance, but from a game point perspective, it's stupid...

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Thanks for the very informative link above, as well.

I'd like to think that he's got to have considered some of this stuff... After all, what's the next step? If he's looking for legitimacy, Mythbusters/Legit news/information show seems to be the way to go. That, or showing off in front of experts, where the editing angle can't be done at all.

I would like to see Mike Loades taking a look at this.

[Glorelendil]

I have to admit, one of my favourite parts to this video is how the guy moves/runs/jumps. As that critique says, it's evocative of Star Wars Kid.

[Jon Hodgson]

I would like to see Mike Loades taking a look at this.

Some commentary from Mr Loades, in his usual incisive and insightful style: https://www.facebook.com/mikeloades/pos ... 1860592099