Pronunciation of Ceawin?

[Majestic]

So how do you think Ceawin should be pronounced?

I know in Elvish Tolkien's Cs are all hard (sound like K's), but I would imagine this isn't the case for names of Men.

Do you think it's:

SEE-win?

SEE-a-win?

KEY-a-win?

Something else?

[MasterSmithwise]

There doesn't seem to be a distinction. C is K, in all cases. I imagine because the language all originated from the same source. EA is always read as 2 syllables. So, if I had to guess (which is often the best you can do with Tolkein words) it would be:

KEH-uh-win ,which when said with lazy english comes out as KAY-uh-win.

Hope that helps.

[Valarian]

KEH-uh-win ,which when said with lazy english comes out as KAY-uh-win.

This .. though I'd pronounce it the Kay-uh-win way ... I suppose I'm lazy

[Majestic]

Thanks, MasterSmithwise and Valarian. I'm no linguistic scholar, and I know there are many here with much more knowledge on stuff like this. This forum is a great resource for stuff like that.

Of course I could just go with whatever sounds good to me. But it's kind of fun to have some consistency, since Middle-earth is so well constructed and detailed, especially with regards to languages and pronunciations.

[zedturtle]

Huh. Board ate my post. I'd use http://weofodthignen.livejournal.com/158550.html
and pronounce it CHeawin. But that could be wrong.

[Fridokind Wargaug]

KEH-uh-win ,which when said with lazy english comes out as KAY-uh-win.

I agree. In IPA, I'd say it's: kʰe:awɪn

And this site tells you how to prounounce it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... c_Alphabet

[Fridokind Wargaug]

Huh. Board ate my post. I'd use http://weofodthignen.livejournal.com/158550.html
and pronounce it CHeawin. But that could be wrong.

I don't think it "ch" because Ceawin would be written down in Westron and I guess they used Elvish pronounciation rules for that, so c=k. But my asumption could be wrong, too

[zedturtle]

Dumb question, is Ceawin somewhere in the Tale of Years? Otherwise, if it's just an OE name reused, the pronunciation rules might not apply. (Probably still do, knowing the authors).

[Fridokind Wargaug]

I don't remember reading that name before...

But I'd guess no, because of his minor role (he was the leader of a small community) and we only know great names (Kings of Dale, leaders of the Beornings etc.) from that time in that place.

[zedturtle]

I don't remember reading that name before...

But I'd guess no, because of his minor role (he was the leader of a small community) and we only know great names (Kings of Dale, leaders of the Beornings etc.) from that time in that place.

Oh no, I don't expect him to actually be listed in his current position. But a lot of characters that appear in the game are named after folks that appear somewhere in the source material, Baldor and Belgo for example.