Wilderland NPC Art, Also a Mogdred Question

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Wilderland NPC Art, Also a Mogdred Question

Post by Random221B » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:13 pm

Has anyone found and used any good art/illustrations to represent some of the otherwise un-illustrated major NPCs from Wilderland? I'm looking especially, at the moment, for major Woodmen personages, like Hartfast, son of Hartmut; Ingomer Axebreaker; Fridwald the Runner; or Mogdred. I've done some Google image searches, but having a hard time narrowing in on sources for art that looks like it could be Tolkien-esque Woodmen.

Speaking of Mogdred...anyone know what that name means, or why he took it, specifically? I presume Ingold took the name (or was given it by the Necromancer) for a reason, and that it's not just some random, meaningless name plucked out of thin air, but--not being a big Tolkien scholar and failing in my linguistic searches--I haven't been able to determine a likely meaning for it, yet.

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Re: Wilderland NPC Art, Also a Mogdred Question

Post by Wbweather » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:23 pm

I assume that the name was created because it sounds evil. Tolkien never used the name from what I can tell. I did check out an Old English dictionary for fun and although I could not find any words related to 'Mog', 'dred' does translate into modern 'dreaded' or 'feared'. There was a suffix in OE 'mód-' that stood for inner man or inner being that was used to imply that someone was full of an emotion. For example the OE word mód-glæd meant glad hearted or full of gladness. Following this reasoning, Mogdred could mean 'full of dread' or dreadful. Of course I can't say what thought went into naming the character, but it's a fun guess.

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Re: Wilderland NPC Art, Also a Mogdred Question

Post by Majestic » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:58 pm

Page 14 of the Darkening of Mirkwood gives us an image of (what appears to be) Mogdred, drawn by Jon Hodgson.

There's a few other spots where you can get some good images of Woodmen (like DOM p. 64,69, and 119, and Heart of the Wild p. 45).
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Re: Wilderland NPC Art, Also a Mogdred Question

Post by Random221B » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:18 pm

Majestic wrote:Page 14 of the Darkening of Mirkwood gives us an image of (what appears to be) Mogdred, drawn by Jon Hodgson.

There's a few other spots where you can get some good images of Woodmen (like DOM p. 64,69, and 119, and Heart of the Wild p. 45).
Thanks, Majestic, I totally did not register at first that was supposed to be Mogdred, though looking at it closely, it clearly is (from the Folk-Moot.) As for the pictures in general, I was hoping to find something more along the lines of portraits (not *of* those specific characters, but that could be used to represent them,) but those are good if I can't find the kind of thing I'm looking for.

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Re: Wilderland NPC Art, Also a Mogdred Question

Post by Falenthal » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:01 pm

Random221B wrote: Speaking of Mogdred...anyone know what that name means, or why he took it, specifically?
Although Gareth Ryder had probably a linguistic knowledge far beyond my comprehension, I always thought it was very similar to the arthurian "Mordred", and that it made sense. Mordred was Arthur's son, which turned on his father.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordred

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Re: Wilderland NPC Art, Also a Mogdred Question

Post by Random221B » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:01 pm

Falenthal wrote:
Random221B wrote: Speaking of Mogdred...anyone know what that name means, or why he took it, specifically?
Although Gareth Ryder had probably a linguistic knowledge far beyond my comprehension, I always thought it was very similar to the arthurian "Mordred", and that it made sense. Mordred was Arthur's son, which turned on his father.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordred
Yes, I always felt that was probably the meta-reference, as well. I'm just curious what the in-world source or meaning of the name would be.

I do like the suggestion by Wbweather that it my be similar to the "mod + dred" meaning "dreadful" he mentions. Perhaps it is Ingold's version of the way Woodmen use descriptive titles instead of their actual names, when out amongst others, like The Bride, The Owl, The Seeker, etc. So, he is "The Dreadful One." :-)

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