Heavy Hitters

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Heavy Hitters

Post by Angelalex242 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:02 pm

Has anyone (or any supplement?) statted up the heavy hitters of the world?

This includes the Fellowship of the Ring (All 9 of 'em, even Boromir), Radagast (they write about him, but I don't see stats on him...), Elrond, Galadriel, Glorfindel, Dain II, Thorin Oakenshield and company, Bilbo, Blue Wizards (maybe the Blues could even be PCs, since they did so little of importance Tolkien nearly forgot to name them...) etc.

And on the other team:Mouth of Sauron, Saruman, Durin's Bane (Balrog), Smaug, Standard Nazgul, Witch King of Angmar, Shelob, Gollum, perhaps even Sauron himself (for even Sauron himself was once just the #2 of an even bigger bad)

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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by BILBOBAGEND » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:18 am

That would be very interesting to see. I second this request :) .

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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by Angelalex242 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:12 am

Well, except Gandalf, the main cast of the Hobbit and the main cast of Lord of the Rings should theoretically be able to be written up as standard PCs with about 250 XP and 300 AP to their names off a starting character. (Cause you know Frodo, et all, got at least 250 XP over the entire LOTR trilogy...)

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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by Beleg » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:50 pm

This has come up before I think in various guises, and I don't think anybody's made up stats for most of those people. The consensus seems to be that for enemies such as the balrog etc, the party either runs or dies. Because let's face it, most people who DO manage to kill a balrog tend to end up dying themselves. And then if they're super lucky they get to come back.

Regarding the Fellowship, I would agree that they could all easily be statted up as PCs or NPCs, and I've got some stats lying around for Bilbo, Thranduil, Glorfindel and Dain I believe, but only Bilbo and Glorfindel have much in the way of interesting stats

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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by Angelalex242 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:25 am

I'd like you to PM or post them if you would. I wanna see what you did with 'em.

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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by Stormcrow » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:25 am

Beleg wrote:Because let's face it, most people who DO manage to kill a balrog tend to end up dying themselves. And then if they're super lucky they get to come back.
Of the three known balrog-slayers, Ecthelion, Glorfindel, and Mithrandir, all were killed in the act, and two of them got to come back to Middle-earth afterward.

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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by Stormcrow » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:27 am

Angelalex242 wrote:Has anyone (or any supplement?) statted up the heavy hitters of the world?
What we really need is a way to judge how many experience and advancement points are necessary for various power levels of character.

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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by Angelalex242 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:36 pm

I use the retirement list in the Loremaster's guide for power levels that matter. Since 250 XP seems to be the meaningful cap of the game, it should be sufficient for, say, the members of the Fellowship of the Ring. Also for Bilbo, etc.

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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by James Harrison » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:02 pm

Hum, I don't think the Hobbits were necessarily 250xp... That's enough for Bilbo to buy valour 6, wisdom 6, Short sword 6 and Dagger 6... and still have enough to have raised bow to 3... pretty much the same for any hero at that xp level: you have so much you are maxed out on everything!

So I think we would want to stat the different members of the party quite differently (and this is only realistic with lower Xp levels), by all means make some of them kick ass... but they should't work off of 250xp... I'd probably go with the Hobbits being starting characters, Boromir and Gimli being somewhat Advanced, and Legolas and Aragorn being advanced.

In essence I think it would be more interesting stating characters at lower totals to highlight their strengths and differences, Gimli should be less wise than Aragorn... but close in terms of valour perhaps. Perhaps that would make a good Chalange! You have 52xp and 52AP* to play with - build a member of the fellowship...

I'm gonna start with Gimli; I'll post him later.

Thoughts? And Have fun!

*PS I know this isn't much but lets see if we can highlight characters strengths and character, rather than building ein ubermensch. Also you can tweak the numbers if needed (Edit I've changed it from 50 to 52 xp )
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Re: Heavy Hitters

Post by Beleg » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:18 pm

I'd like you to PM or post them if you would. I wanna see what you did with 'em.
Here you go. I should point out these were all made when I first started running the game, and I haven't really checked over them since.

Thranduil:
Attribute Level: 9
Endurance: 30
Hope: 7
Parry: 6
Armour: 1d
Personality [F]: 4
Movement: 3
Perception [F]: 4
Survival: 1
Custom: 3
Vocation: 3


Glorfindel:
Attribute Level: 10
Endurance: 34
Hope: 12
Parry: 8
Armour: 4d
Personality [F]: 3
Movement [F]: 5
Perception: 2
Survival: 1
Custom: 3
Vocation [F]: 4

Bilbo:
Attribute Level: 6
Endurance: 22
Hope: 18
Parry: 4
Armour [Mithril]: 5d
Personality: 2
Movement [F] :5
Perception: 4
Survival: 0
Custom [F]: 6
Vocation: 1

Weapons wise, I gave Glorfindel what I called, for lack of a better word, a glaive. Basically one of those fancy swords the elves have in the opening battle scene in FotR, and Bilbo obviously has Sting

Glorfindel: Elven Glaive [F]: 6 Glaive stats: Dmg: 9/11, Edge 9, Injury 18/20, Called Shot: Disarm
Bilbo: Sting: 3 Sting stats: Dmg: 6, Edge: 9, Injury 16, Called Shot: Disarm, glows when Orcs are near

I also gave them both some special abilities, but I'm conscious of the fact I'm going on a bit here, so I can put them up in another post is you chaps would like me to

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