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Re: The Core books as hardbacks
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:20 pm
by Gweinel
As I said in a previous similar thread I would much prefered to have a new product via kickstarter than an existing one like a hard cover edition of the main rules.
Re: The Core books as hardbacks
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:44 pm
by Hermes Serpent
Gweinel wrote:As I said in a previous similar thread I would much prefered to have a new product via kickstarter than an existing one like a hard cover edition of the main rules.
That's fine but when they run out of the soft cover two volume slip-cased version what happens?
Tell punters that there is no stock? Reprint a set that has a less than stellar binding?
or perhaps leverage the interest expressed by multiple posts in their own forums for a hard cover version?
Their main market, the US, prefers a hard bound book with lot's of pictures so they can feed that beast and get them to help pay for it via KS or IGG. With the existing fulfilment/logistics system one of the main issues that occur with KS or IGG is already set up and tested. They have their success with the Cthulhu KS to judge the likely response and their return on the project and know how much they have to commit in terms of personnel resources ( I'd guess that Jon needs a good rest before thinking about another project to manage. Maybe a month taking refuge from winter gales and pounding rain painting new scenes for the next TOR release

Re: The Core books as hardbacks
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:13 pm
by Gweinel
Hermes Serpent wrote:Gweinel wrote:As I said in a previous similar thread I would much prefered to have a new product via kickstarter than an existing one like a hard cover edition of the main rules.
That's fine but when they run out of the soft cover two volume slip-cased version what happens?
Tell punters that there is no stock? Reprint a set that has a less than stellar binding?
or perhaps leverage the interest expressed by multiple posts in their own forums for a hard cover version?
Their main market, the US, prefers a hard bound book with lot's of pictures so they can feed that beast and get them to help pay for it via KS or IGG. With the existing fulfilment/logistics system one of the main issues that occur with KS or IGG is already set up and tested. They have their success with the Cthulhu KS to judge the likely response and their return on the project and know how much they have to commit in terms of personnel resources ( I'd guess that Jon needs a good rest before thinking about another project to manage. Maybe a month taking refuge from winter gales and pounding rain painting new scenes for the next TOR release

I don't have any objection with the things you say. If they run out of softcover edition it would be better to turn to hardcover books. This doesn't consume any time since the only thing it changes is the book binding. In the other hand if they chose a kickstarter of Rivendell in which inside there are the core rules i would surely support it, although as far as I know there is not a good possibility to see such thing. Now, if they are to fund a kickstarter lets say between with a Rivendell book or a new hardcover deluxe super edition of the Wilderland setting i would of course chose the first since i don't want to invest in a material i already have.
Re: The Core books as hardbacks
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:32 pm
by Hermes Serpent
It looks as if you have not been following the plot.
There are no longer three sets of books with the core rules repeated in each. C7 decided that was not a path they would follow many moons ago. So no Rivendell with core rules. I suspect it will be a cross between Heart and Tales/Darkening - loads of background with lots of plot hooks and maybe a campaign arc with scenarios.
Whether or not the third book has any resemblance to the journeys of a certain Ranger is still up in the air as I don't think C7 have offered anything news-wise for that apart from the deletion of the three book set format.
The material for the Rivendell book is AFAIK substantially complete and being reviewed so may get published in later 2014. I don't know why you think it was not likely to be published.
Regarding the reprint of the core rules I suspect it will include some textual revisions such as the clarifications written by Amado and Francesco on the C7 forums. That may necessitate a re-review by M-e E and most certainly a check that layout issues don't arise throwing off the page count, illustrations etc.
Re: The Core books as hardbacks
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:13 am
by Gweinel
I see my poor use of english led to misunderstandings. I will try to clarify a bit.
I am aware that they will not follow their original plan to publish three setting books with the rules in them. I just tried to give an example of a plausible (for me at least) future kickstarter project which will include the rules in a hardcover format.
Also I don't doubt that they will publish Rivendell project. I am anticipating it as everyone in these forums too!

Re: The Core books as hardbacks
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:30 pm
by Hermes Serpent
Ah, a bit clearer now. The users of this forum have a decent command of English and sometimes it isn't clear where someone is labouring with the language because of being a non-native speaker.
English has a structure and vocabulary such that I'm amazed by the ability of non-native speakers to follow some of the convoluted sentences used by some posters. All of you have much better command of English than my command of your native language regardless of what it is
