Because of 2 Encumbrance per spear?Otaku-sempai wrote:Why assume just one? Someone who routinely hunts with the javelin is likely to carry several in a quiver-like rig, so why not the same with throwing spears? This is especially true if the spears are intended for warfare and/or the character is mounted.farinal wrote:But also you just carry one throwing spear so I think it should balance it out?
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Re: Stinging Arrows for Throwing Spear?
It does seem to me that the use of a quiver or holster for spears should allow for a reduction of the total Encumbrance, perhaps by a value of 2, so that 3 spears could be carried for a total Encumbrance of 4 instead of 6. But this wouldn't even be a significant factor if the wielder was mounted with the quiver carried by the mount.Glorelendil wrote:Because of 2 Encumbrance per spear?
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I also think you're envisioning much smaller spears than I am, and you're probably doing so from a position of much greater historical knowledge. The "spear" I'm envisioning would be awkward, to say the least, slung in a quiver. No wussy little javelins for me; I'll take cool visuals over historical accuracy any day.
(And don't even get me started on warhammers...)
(And don't even get me started on warhammers...)
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Re: Stinging Arrows for Throwing Spear?
Well, a standard Spear is notably shorter and lighter than a Great Spear in any case (though still around six feet long for most races; a hobbit's Spear might be more like four feet long), with fully half the Encumbrance. A quiver intended to hold several Spears would be fairly good-sized itself and might be more practically carried on a mount than on a person, but it could be worn across the back. It would likely be taken off one's back to access the weapons.Glorelendil wrote:I also think you're envisioning much smaller spears than I am, and you're probably doing so from a position of much greater historical knowledge.
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Unless this innocuous 'quiver' were also a spring-loaded, rapid-fire, spear launcher. Just bend over, pate toward the baddies, and pull the rip cord.
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I can totally see Orlando Bloom doing it.Glorelendil wrote:Unless this innocuous 'quiver' were also a spring-loaded, rapid-fire, spear launcher. Just bend over, pate toward the baddies, and pull the rip cord.
PJ totally should have hired me as a cinematic consultant.
That said, I have something of a curiosity...
do we have some historical precedent for a quiver of javelins from late ancient/medieval Europe (whence most of inspiration for M-e comes).
I mean, if Jon has to draw it...
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I just googled "Quiver of Spears" and got almost entirely quivers of arrows.
So, based on one of the images, I tried "basket of spears". Most of the results fell into two categories:
1) Asparagus-related
2) Brittany Spears
I laughed.
So, based on one of the images, I tried "basket of spears". Most of the results fell into two categories:
1) Asparagus-related
2) Brittany Spears
I laughed.
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Re: Stinging Arrows for Throwing Spear?
I know that lances would be carried on a horse in some sort of holster rig, though a jousting lance would be closer to a great spear than a spear or javelin meant to be thrown.
Ottoman throwing spears and quiver:
Ottoman throwing spears and quiver:
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Re: Stinging Arrows for Throwing Spear?
You've been watching FAR TOO MUCH Sword and the Sorceror.Glorelendil wrote:Unless this innocuous 'quiver' were also a spring-loaded, rapid-fire, spear launcher. Just bend over, pate toward the baddies, and pull the rip cord.
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Re: Stinging Arrows for Throwing Spear?
No. Such. Thing.Rich H wrote:You've been watching FAR TOO MUCH Sword and the Sorceror.Glorelendil wrote:Unless this innocuous 'quiver' were also a spring-loaded, rapid-fire, spear launcher. Just bend over, pate toward the baddies, and pull the rip cord.
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