You misunderstand me. It is not a question of players needing more motivation; it is a question of finding different motivations than "important person asks party to do something, so they do it, or go home."DavetheLost wrote:I have to ask, if players need this much motivation to participate in an adventure and their characters have to be dragged into it kicking and screaming WHY are they playing an Adventure role playing game?
But The Hobbit isn't written from Gandalf's perspective. Tolkien started such a project, and abandoned it. And in The One Ring, Gandalf is never a player character. In any case, Gandalf didn't ask Thorin for help; he went along with Thorin because it coincided with his own ideas. The only person in the story who is hired to do a job is Bilbo, and he never really makes a conscious decision to join the party; he is flummoxed and whisked into it by Gandalf, and he remains because he has personal issues to work out (Baggins versus Took).Mytholder wrote:For that matter, The Hobbit isn't a treasure hunt from Gandalf's perspective; it's an attempt to deny Sauron a potential ally.