Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

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Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Michebugio » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:26 pm

A simple question, I haven't been able to find out if this has been discussed before: would you, as Lore Masters, allow a character to take a Reward from another culture? Let's say that the player can provide a reasonable, if not interesting backstory to how he came in possession of the item.

For example:

- A Dalish Longbow granted to Sylvan Elf character as a sign of gratitude and friendship by a Barding noble;
- A Dwarf-wrought Hauberk forged for a Barding that gained the friendship of dwarves for his heroic deeds on their behalf;
- A King's Blade found by a Woodman on the shores of the Anduin;
- A Woodland bow given to a Hobbit who saved an Elf maiden...

And so on. I'm still uncertain if I can permit this or not to my players, some of whom have expressed a real interest on the opportunity. What are your opinions?

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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Otaku-sempai » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:04 pm

Perhaps this should be allowable (pending Loremaster approval) for Heroes who have established a Sanctuary within another culture. Comments?
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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Rich H » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:31 pm

... What do you think the players' motivations are for this? Are they trying to minmax and game the system or do they have interesting story and character motivations that they want to explore?
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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Glorelendil » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:16 pm

Rich H wrote:... What do you think the players' motivations are for this? Are they trying to minmax and game the system or do they have interesting story and character motivations that they want to explore?
IMHO I don't care if their ulterior motive is min-maxing as long as the story is good.
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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Michebugio » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:05 am

Elfcrusher wrote:IMHO I don't care if their ulterior motive is min-maxing as long as the story is good.
My exact thought. If one of my players has a great backstory, and to match it in terms of game stats he also min-maxes (voluntarily or not), I don't care, as long as his character isn't totally game-breaking. But my other, golden rule is: poor backstory = poor game choices. If a player has no good ideas, he gets no good rewards.
Otaku-sempai wrote:Perhaps this should be allowable (pending Loremaster approval) for Heroes who have established a Sanctuary within another culture.
This is an interesting in-game mechanic. The Sanctuary can be one of the prerequisites. Others may be a minimum score of Reputation, or Valor, or Wisdom...

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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Rich H » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:30 am

Michebugio wrote:
Elfcrusher wrote:IMHO I don't care if their ulterior motive is min-maxing as long as the story is good.
My exact thought. If one of my players has a great backstory, and to match it in terms of game stats he also min-maxes (voluntarily or not), I don't care, as long as his character isn't totally game-breaking...
Well, your initial post didn't really present it like that so I thought my query had merit.
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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Beran » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:43 am

This is one of the reasons I would like to see some kind of free floating items that could be awarded to PCs during play. I mean the RAW doesn't allow for Glamdring and Orcrist to be found, to use an example out of the novels. As it stands right now I really don't see why a LM could not gift these items during play, but s some of them are rather powerful I would only do so at a critical point in the story.

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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Rich H » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:54 am

Beran wrote:This is one of the reasons I would like to see some kind of free floating items that could be awarded to PCs during play. I mean the RAW doesn't allow for Glamdring and Orcrist to be found, to use an example out of the novels. As it stands right now I really don't see why a LM could not gift these items during play, but s some of them are rather powerful I would only do so at a critical point in the story.
Fingers crossed then that the Rivendell supplement and the, announced, magical treasures section within it addresses this for you.
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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Yusei » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:48 am

I've allowed it because the story worked, but I'm not a big fan of the idea (and I've vetoed it when the player wanted to include a third culture).

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Re: Cultural Rewards attainable by another culture?

Post by Beran » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:00 am

Rich H wrote: Fingers crossed then that the Rivendell supplement and the, announced, magical treasures section within it addresses this for you.
Believe me they are crossed.

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