Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by zedturtle » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:11 pm

Yeah my own personal delineations are:

Autumn = September, October, November
Winter = December, January, February
Spring = March, April, May
Summer = June, July, August

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Is there a way to maybe base the season off of the mid-point of the journey? Or maybe the end date of the journey?
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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Rich H » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:13 pm

zedturtle wrote:Yeah my own personal delineations are:

Autumn = September, October, November
Winter = December, January, February
Spring = March, April, May
Summer = June, July, August
Those are the ones I'd go with, although personally I question why each has to be 3 months - Winter and Spring seem longer that Summer and Autumn; at least in the UK! :D
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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Otaku-sempai » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:18 pm

Falenthal wrote:Just by looking at the Wikipedia should suffice, but I won't do it and will write how I consider the seasons :D :

Winter: 22 December - 21 March
Spring: 22 March - 21 June
Summer: 22 June - 21 September
Autum: 22 September - 21 December
That is fine for your personal use, but we are using the setting of Tolkien's Middle-earth. Tolkien made Yule to be mid-winter and Lithe as mid-summer. I would think that that would seal the deal.
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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Glorelendil » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:27 pm

Otaku-sempai wrote:
Falenthal wrote:Just by looking at the Wikipedia should suffice, but I won't do it and will write how I consider the seasons :D :

Winter: 22 December - 21 March
Spring: 22 March - 21 June
Summer: 22 June - 21 September
Autum: 22 September - 21 December
That is fine for your personal use, but we are using the setting of Tolkien's Middle-earth. Tolkien made Yule to be mid-winter and Lithe as mid-summer. I would think that that would seal the deal.
Are you suggesting that in Tolkien's world Yule is not just the midpoint of "official" winter, but also of meteorological winter?
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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Falenthal » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:36 pm

Glorelendil wrote:
Otaku-sempai wrote:
Falenthal wrote:Just by looking at the Wikipedia should suffice, but I won't do it and will write how I consider the seasons :D :

Winter: 22 December - 21 March
Spring: 22 March - 21 June
Summer: 22 June - 21 September
Autum: 22 September - 21 December
That is fine for your personal use, but we are using the setting of Tolkien's Middle-earth. Tolkien made Yule to be mid-winter and Lithe as mid-summer. I would think that that would seal the deal.
Are you suggesting that in Tolkien's world Yule is not just the midpoint of "official" winter, but also of meteorological winter?
I'm not going to discuss it much, but I think there's a difference between the "official" (as Glorelendil calls it) or calendar winter, and the "weather and temperature" winter.
Yes, I agree that probably all folks in Middle Earth celebrate the beginning of winter in November.
But regarding Travels, I would prefer to assimilate winter to "cold and snow".

Referring to the Journeyometer, maybe Glor could just introduce the option to manually select the season.

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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Otaku-sempai » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:48 pm

Glorelendil wrote:Are you suggesting that in Tolkien's world Yule is not just the midpoint of "official" winter, but also of meteorological winter?
Calendar Winter. The weather does its own thing.
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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Glorelendil » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:50 pm

Otaku-sempai wrote:
Glorelendil wrote:Are you suggesting that in Tolkien's world Yule is not just the midpoint of "official" winter, but also of meteorological winter?
Calendar Winter. The weather does its own thing.
So do you want travel gear encumbrance to be based off of calendar seasons, not weather patterns?
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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Otaku-sempai » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:54 pm

Glorelendil wrote:So do you want travel gear encumbrance to be based of of calendar seasons, not weather patterns?
The actual climate should be the deciding factor, although local conditions might be another one. I really wasn't thinking that through but was hung-up on the semantics. Do what seems best.
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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Glorelendil » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:30 am

Here's the function that determines season:

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function daysPerRoll( month ) {
	switch( month ) {
		case 11:
		case 0:
		case 1:
			return 3;
		case 2:
		case 3:
		case 4:
			return 5;
		case 5:
		case 6:
		case 7:
			return 6;
		case 8:
		case 9:
		case 10:
			return 4;
	}
	console.log( "can't have a month value of " + month );
	return 0;
}
So December, January, February is "winter".

But, like I said, it computes each day separately, so if you have a journey that starts in November and ends in December, some of it will be "Fall" and some "Winter".
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Re: Journeyometer 2: Rivendell is live!

Post by Angelalex242 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:33 am

At any rate...

Have you done a simulation of Bilbo's journey with Thorin yet?

Always nice to have a baseline based on 'historical events.'

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