Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Otaku-sempai » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:28 pm

Hobbit vernacular includes the words Lor' and Lawks, both derived from Lord. Those might be things that they picked up from Big Folk.
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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Rocmistro » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:29 pm

I think "hell" (not necessarily Judeo-Christian Hell) and heavens are appropriate terms in Middle-earth. There is much reference to "abyss", "outer darkness" and consuming fires in middle-earth.

I also think "bastard" can work, although it's very vulgar and I don't think the good guys would normally employ such a term unless very upset.
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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Glorelendil » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:17 pm

I've been rolling words around on my tongue trying to find ones that sound Middle-Earthy. Scatological and sexual terms don't really make the cut, and has been noted it can be hard to disentangle religious terms from their cultural roots.

So far the only thing I really like is cognates of "Curse", used like "Damn". "This cursed place." "Curse him!" Etc.

I think the most promising vein to mine is taking religious idioms and reworking them to fit Tolkien's mythos. E.g., "By Eru" sounds right, even if it presupposes knowledge that 3rd age men might not have.

"Curse him to the seventh dungeon of Angband!"
"This Valar-forsaken abyss."
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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Rich H » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:40 pm

Could also have things like,

"You sack of wine!"

"You sack of grog!"

"You dung-headed swine!"

"Weak-kneed sheep gut!"

"You lily-livered March hare!"

"You're a chicken-hearted cabbage-eater!”

“You weak-kneed sheep-gut!

"You're a craven milksop!”

“You're both parcels of mangy mouse-warts!"
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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Rocmistro » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:50 pm

Rich H wrote:Could also have things like,
.......
"You're a chicken-hearted cabbage-eater!”
Tone it down, Rich.
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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Glorelendil » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:36 pm

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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Yepesnopes » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:30 pm

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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Hélend » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:39 pm

It's just not very Tolkienesque to swear up a storm. Even the orcs don't go much beyond calling people "maggot" (and Farmer Maggot wouldn't take offense to that) or "vermin".

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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Falenthal » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:19 pm

Remember the first Monkey Island by LucasArts? :lol:

Some of the curses you learn as Guybrush Threepwood to fight with the Swordmaster of Melée Island sound appropiate here:

http://monkeyisland.wikia.com/wiki/Insu ... d_Fighting

Example:

Insult - Killing you would be justifiable homicide!
Comeback - Then killing you must be justifiable fungicide.

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Re: Cursing, Swearing and exclamations in Middle Earth

Post by Rich H » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:41 pm

Rocmistro wrote:
Rich H wrote:Could also have things like,
.......
"You're a chicken-hearted cabbage-eater!”
Tone it down, Rich.
Apologies. I was really concerned about posting some of those and thought about the implications that could arise by doing so. I'm sorry for any offense to chickens (and cabbage-eaters!) that I may have caused. Mea culpa.
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