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Journey Advantages

Post by beckett » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:10 pm

Here is a question for all the Loremasters out there. When you break up a long journey into smaller legs, do you allow the player-heroes to make preliminary rolls for each leg of the journey?
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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by Stormcrow » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:19 pm

Allow a single preliminary roll per character each time the game enters "journey mode." There may be multiple legs traveled during journey mode. Journey mode end when the party reaches its destination, or when they take a prolonged rest, or when an adventuring scene interrupts the journey. A hazard does not count as an adventuring scene all by itself, though it may turn into one.

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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by Angelalex242 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:32 pm

Actually, I've seen more journeys divided up into legs that vary by terrain.

One Lore roll for the tn 12 open plains, another for the tn 14 normal Mirkwood, another for tn 16 nasty Mirkwood, and so on. This allows people with different 'terrain lore' like Mirkwood Lore, Eriador Lore, etc, to apply it specifically to the terrain relevant, but the not the others.

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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by Hermes Serpent » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:42 pm

AngelAlex242, you are being confused as the TN for different legs of a journey is not what the OP was asking about. He's asking if each leg of a journey has a Preliminary roll as per p151 in the latest rules. I don't allow such rolls for each leg, just once per journey, but then I might suggest that that on particularly long journeys the company takes a break somewhere to rest and regain Fatigue due to Travel thus making it into two journeys.
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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by PST » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:51 pm

Hermes Serpent wrote:AngelAlex242, you are being confused as the TN for different legs of a journey is not what the OP was asking about. He's asking if each leg of a journey has a Preliminary roll as per p151 in the latest rules. I don't allow such rolls for each leg, just once per journey, but then I might suggest that that on particularly long journeys the company takes a break somewhere to rest and regain Fatigue due to Travel thus making it into two journeys.
I've not done that with my group yet, but having checked out some potential future journeys for them, it's definitely going to be an important consideration as otherwise they'd almost certainly arrive too weary to accomplish anything.

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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by Woodclaw » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:26 pm

Stormcrow wrote:Allow a single preliminary roll per character each time the game enters "journey mode." There may be multiple legs traveled during journey mode. Journey mode end when the party reaches its destination, or when they take a prolonged rest, or when an adventuring scene interrupts the journey. A hazard does not count as an adventuring scene all by itself, though it may turn into one.
Same here.
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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by beckett » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:30 pm

All great advice. Thank you, friends!
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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by Eluadin » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:32 pm

In keeping with the original core set's description, I view the preliminary roll as planning ahead, i.e., before you begin the journey. No additional Lore rolls along the way, even in-between segments. (And, I usually break my journeys up into segments to distribute Fatigue tests and hazard episodes.)

This helps maintain the interwoven feel of the story when a player-hero fails a Fatigue test: Too much planning can lead to a number of unnecessary oddities taken on the trip, or unneeded shortcuts added into the itinerary! Oddities that weigh down the unlucky adventurer at the worst of times, i.e., failed Fatigue test...Ooops, shouldn't have packed that...! Did we really agree to take this shortcut...? The "that" and "this" are catch-alls for poor initial planning (in the spirit of p. 159) as well as other travel complications (the more traditionally imagined ones alluded to on p. 158.).

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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by Rich H » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:47 pm

Eluadin wrote:In keeping with the original core set's description, I view the preliminary roll as planning ahead, i.e., before you begin the journey. No additional Lore rolls along the way, even in-between segments. (And, I usually break my journeys up into segments to distribute Fatigue tests and hazard episodes.)
That's the way I look at them aswell.

I also divide the legs of a journey up into changes of terrain.
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Re: Journey Advantages

Post by Majestic » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:50 pm

I've treated them in the 'planning ahead' mode as well, and only given them out per entire journey (rather than for each individual leg). I've also taken to passing out glass beads (using different colored ones for battles, encounters, and journeys) so that the players can keep them in front of them and remember what they have bonus die for (thus one bead for an ordinary success, two for a great success, etc.).
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