BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

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BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by Rich H » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:36 pm

Appreciate many of you not in the UK may have missed this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34063157

And may want to read and listen to it.
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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by PaulButler » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:37 pm

Ha! I was just reading this.
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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by Majestic » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:44 pm

Great article. Thanks for posting it, Rich! :)
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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by Riemumieli » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:45 pm

A very nice article. I knew the basics but now I know much more. Good to be a Finn 8-)

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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by cuthalion » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:51 pm

Thanks for this link, I'll have to read it through at some point, but got stopped at:
The dark tale reveals that Tolkien's Middle Earth was inspired not only by England and Wales… but also by Finland.
Really? Thought it pretty common knowledge how much he drew from germanic/Scandinavian myth sagas. In fact, there's a letter somewhere I'm sure where he states that he's writing the myth cycle he WISHED England/Wales had. I'm a Brit, but I don't like the idea that LOTR is completely Anglocentric, and I don't think it would be nearly as meaningful if it was. What is it with people and the lust for allegory.

Anyway, just a rant. I think it just comes down to crummy word choice

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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by farinal » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:36 am

This is really cool news as I just started to read Kalevala
Of Finarfin's children I am the last. But my heart is still proud. What wrong did the golden house of Finarfin do that I should ask the pardon of the Valar, or be content with an isle in the sea whose native land was Aman the Blessed? Here I am mightier.

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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by Rich H » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:53 am

cuthalion wrote:Thought it pretty common knowledge how much he drew from germanic/Scandinavian myth sagas.
Consider who the article is written for; the average news reader and shouldn't be assumed to have any knowledge of Tolkien's work beyond reading the books, or perhaps even just the films. I think many of us would assume it is common knowledge (among Tolkien fans/readers) but I'm not sure it is universally common knowledge and it would be wrong for a news site to assume so, especially the BBC.
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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by cuthalion » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:00 pm

Yes, you're right. But bugger the BBC for rubbish writing and spreading/legitimizing crappy readings, is essentially what I'm saying. Especially as it's so obviously in an attempt to make the headline more sensational.

Call me touchy I guess, as, since Jackson, I feel like the last thing Tolkien needs is more dumbing down.

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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by Rich H » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:09 pm

cuthalion wrote:Especially as it's so obviously in an attempt to make the headline more sensational.
I can understand saying it's not well researched and therefore lazy writing, albeit like I said the article needs to consider the readership and audience, but I didn't think they were making attempts to sensationalise at all.

I'm personally more concerned that you say you're a Brit, yet spell legitimising with a 'z'! Shocking. :)
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Re: BBC Article on Tolkien and Kullervo

Post by Earendil » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:56 pm

Rich H wrote:I'm personally more concerned that you say you're a Brit, yet spell legitimising with a 'z'! Shocking. :)
That's not an Americanism, it's the spelling the Oxford English Dictionary favours. :P
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