Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

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Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by farinal » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:39 am

Hi all, I was wondering where exactly did you place treasure hoards in the DoM? I think the book doesn't say there is a hoard or not. After Rivendell and preparing an index for the campaign I don't know where to put the hoards.

And another thing, the DoM also doesn't really give social encounters much either. How do you generally handle the social encounters in the book and tolerances etc. ?
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Re: Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by Rich H » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:13 pm

Take a look at this old thread, Farinal:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2207

... May give you exactly what you want with zero effort.
TOR resources thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=62
TOR miniatures thread: viewtopic.php?t=885

Fellowship of the Free Tale of Years: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8318

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Re: Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by farinal » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:24 pm

Woah thanks Rich. Note to self: search better next time.
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Re: Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by Rich H » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:27 pm

No problem. I have loads of threads saved on my webpage favourites in a subfolder all of their own.

At some point in time I will go through them and create supplement to support my game because there are loads of things I want to use/keep.
TOR resources thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=62
TOR miniatures thread: viewtopic.php?t=885

Fellowship of the Free Tale of Years: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8318

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Re: Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by Fenton Hardy » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:35 pm

farinal wrote:And another thing, the DoM also doesn't really give social encounters much either. How do you generally handle the social encounters in the book and tolerances etc. ?
True DoM requires more work from a LM than TfW or RotN, but I have had little diffculty applying the rules for Encounters from the Core book. DoM together with HotW should give give you a sense of the NPCs motivations and whether they favour valour or wisdom. You will have to determine the results of the varying degrees of success and failure. You will also have to account for the fact that the players will encounter some NPCs multiple times and that the results of earlier meetings will influence the Tolerance rating later on.

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Re: Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by Majestic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:55 pm

As far as the Tolerance for a character the PCs are meeting a second time, I find that most of the time an Encounter isn't necessary. Remember that an Encounter is only used when the PCs are needing to persuade someone of something or trying to accomplish something significant. So the second time they meet Radagast, or Beorn, or whatever, it's often not needed.
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Re: Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by Fenton Hardy » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:10 pm

Majestic wrote:As far as the Tolerance for a character the PCs are meeting a second time, I find that most of the time an Encounter isn't necessary. Remember that an Encounter is only used when the PCs are needing to persuade someone of something or trying to accomplish something significant. So the second time they meet Radagast, or Beorn, or whatever, it's often not needed.
That's true. I have had a second Encounter a couple of times but I remember the composition of the party had changed somewhat.

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Re: Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by Majestic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:35 pm

Good point. If the party has changed drastically, it really often merits another Encounter. So even if the players feel like Thranduil is an old, familiar friend, he might still regard the characters with mistrust or suspicion.
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Re: Treasure hoards and social encounters in DoM

Post by Stormcrow » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:46 pm

Majestic wrote:Remember that an Encounter is only used when the PCs are needing to persuade someone of something or trying to accomplish something significant.
As described in the rules, "when the company meets one or more Loremaster characters that do not qualify immediately as enemies, an Encounter occurs," but the Loremaster does not set a Tolerance unless the heroes' goal "is in conflict with the intentions of the people they meet."

So, encounters themselves are pretty common, but counting failures only happens when you need to make skill rolls to change someone's mind about something.

Strictly speaking, an encounter happens whether the party's goal is significant or not, but in insignificant cases the Loremaster can simply rule that all attempts to influence the Loremaster characters are automatic actions.

As for introductions, these need be done only "at the beginning of most encounters"; they are not absolutely required. If you're meeting with someone for a second time or more, the Loremaster may decide that this is one of those cases where an introduction is not necessary.

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