What Aragorn says...

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Re: What Aragorn says...

Post by Otaku-sempai » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:29 pm

Stormcrow wrote:
Otaku-sempai wrote:Halbarad of the Grey Company is just my (and Fenton's) best guess.
Only because we don't have any other names to choose from. You might just as easily make up a new character for that spot.
True. However, since we don't know Halbarad's age we can easily suppose that he might have been Arathorn's trusted lieutenant--avoiding the need to create an entirely new character. It works either way.
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Re: What Aragorn says...

Post by Rich H » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:59 pm

Otaku-sempai wrote:One Caveat: I doubt that Aragorn II fully took his place as the leader of the Dunedain of the North until after TA 2980. From 2951 up to that point he was traveling in disguise to various regions of Middle-earth, learning about their peoples and customs, and serving Rohan then Gondor under the name of Thorongil.
It doesn't stop Aragorn from having the opinions expressed in the section being discussed; whether he was leader in waiting or active or some other. I'd be more concerned that he doesn't have a listed opinion about the Elves of Rivendell. Mind you, they don't share their thoughts about the Rangers either. :)
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Re: What Aragorn says...

Post by Otaku-sempai » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:03 pm

Rich H wrote:It doesn't stop Aragorn from having the opinions expressed in the section being discussed; whether he was leader in waiting or active or some other.
True, but I never stated otherwise. My thought that before Aragorn returned to Rivendell in late 2980 heroes would be unlikely to able to have him as a Patron unless they encountered him in the Wild.
I'd be more concerned that he doesn't have a listed opinion about the Elves of Rivendell. Mind you, they don't share their thoughts about the Rangers either. :)
I would guess that those opinions would have been favorable on both sides. :)
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Re: What Aragorn says...

Post by Arthadan » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:12 pm

Otaku-sempai wrote:
Stormcrow wrote:
Otaku-sempai wrote:Halbarad of the Grey Company is just my (and Fenton's) best guess.
Only because we don't have any other names to choose from. You might just as easily make up a new character for that spot.
True. However, since we don't know Halbarad's age we can easily suppose that he might have been Arathorn's trusted lieutenant--avoiding the need to create an entirely new character. It works either way.
Also Halbarad is Aragorn's cousin, which makes him quite perfect. However you may prefer his father Halbaron who outlived Arathorn II.

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Re: What Aragorn says...

Post by Rich H » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:40 pm

Otaku-sempai wrote:True, but I never stated otherwise.
No-one said that you did.
Otaku-sempai wrote:I would guess that those opinions would have been favorable on both sides. :)
My point being that they are missing; likely overlooked when putting together the supplement, so was poking a little fun at us all for discussing Aragorn being able to hold such opinions but not being bothered that he doesn't have any towards those dwelling in Rivendell.
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Re: What Aragorn says...

Post by Otaku-sempai » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:48 pm

Halbaron would be great if one doesn't mind using a non-canon character (from the fan-film Born of Hope).

I've seen the birth-year of TA 2916 attributed to Halbarad, but that might also be from Born of Hope. It is fact that he was one of the Rangers who guarded the borders of the Shire prior to the War of the Ring. I'm not as certain about the assertion that he and Aragorn were cousins (although Aragorn does call him 'kin'). Might that also be from the fan-film?
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Re: What Aragorn says...

Post by Arthadan » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:53 pm

You're right, I got confused by Born of Hope. I think Halbarad's birth-year is also non-canon.

In LotR Aragorn calls Halbarad "kinsman" but we don't know how they are related exactly.

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Re: What Aragorn says...

Post by Angelalex242 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:34 am

Aragorn's opinion of Rivendell:

Elrond's making me save the damn world to date his daughter. Talk about over protective dads...

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