are we waiting for other cultures

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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Otaku-sempai » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:20 pm

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Otaku-sempai wrote:If the Riders of Rohan are omitted from the Adventurer's Companion then what Heroic Culture, if any, replace it? I would suggest Folk of Dorwinion or Snowmen of Forochel.

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Out of scope.
Then use a different mouthwash.

Seriously, though: explain. Dorwinion is touched upon in the Erebor book (and a little bit in The Darkening of Mirkwood) and the Bay of Forochel borders the north-western part of Eriador. I'll admit that the Snowmen are likely to be fairly insular, but no more so than the Woses (granted, they might be considered to be a poor choice as well). However, the Dorwinrim might be relatively cosmopolitan due to Dorwinion's status as a trading center and bridge between the West and the East. I can easily imagine Heroes coming from there.
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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Rich H » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:35 pm

Otaku-sempai wrote:Dorwinion is touched upon in the Erebor. ... the Dorwinrim might be relatively cosmopolitan due to Dorwinion's status as a trading center and bridge between the West and the East. I can easily imagine Heroes coming from there.
Dorwinion's as a culture could be quite interesting, potentially opening up a different kind of campaign (at least initially) focusing on trade and the politics around it:

Eriador: the final frontier. These are the trade missions of the merchant caravan 'Enterprise'. Its continuing mission: to sell posh wine in new lands, to seek out new cultures and new markets, to boldly go where no grape has gone before!
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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Glorelendil » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:36 pm

I'm torn on both Snowmen and Dorwiniom.

On the one hand they could be a blast to have in the game because they're so different. And the relative lack of information about them means the designers would have a lot of leeway to flesh them out.

But one downside of so little information is that we may all have been filling in the details in our imaginations very differently, and a large number of us will be disappointed. "THAT'S not what they're like!"

And they do seem rather on the periphery of the stories. Honestly I sort of feel that way about Elves of Lindon as well. They (all three) play an important role in the story, but they're never really featured in the stories, and we just don't have enough information about them to make anything more than a wild guess.

I'm looking forward to Men of Gondor, Elves of Lorien, and Breefolk, but other than that I (personally) don't really need many more cultures in the game...other than Woses. At least for the forseeable future.
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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Falenthal » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:59 pm

Wouldn't you have variants of the Hobbit culture?

We have the core Hobbits from The Shire and the optional Wild Hobbits from the Anduin.
But we should at least have some Bree Hobbits and, maybe, Hobbits from the Brandywine (they seem to fit a bit different from the rest).
Those last ones are in a way already covered under some of the Backgrounds of the Hobbits from the Shire, but they could benefit from a little more fleshing, as the Dwarves from the Grey Mountains and those of the Iron Hills have.

Besides those, I'd like to have Dorwinrrim as an available player culture.
No need for Woses or Lossoth, personally. I prefer them being a secretive, recluded folk, only to be used as exotic NPCs with strange rituals and customs.

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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Glorelendil » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:17 pm

Falenthal wrote: No need for Woses or Lossoth, personally. I prefer them being a secretive, recluded folk, only to be used as exotic NPCs with strange rituals and customs.
Possibly. I'd love to have them really fleshed out though; a whole chapter (of which book?) dedicated to each.
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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Falenthal » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:24 pm

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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Zulgolra » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:47 pm

Seems like this will be my first on this forum, after reading here for almost 2 years..! So, hello everybody.

I really think more cultures are quite important. Ok, maybe not any new culture for its one sake, but I get asked frequently about Bree-or other human folk from Eriador and of course about men from Gondor! We cannot denie, that many people think about those cultures from the lord of the rings...
Is it nice to have 4 dwarfen backgrounds?! Of course, but from a beginners side they are not as important as men from Gondor etc.

About the Hobbits i have to say, that i think they are fleshed out quite good with the brandybuck background. Seems to me that background get underestimated or forgotten to fast and soon. Like in those diskussions about men of Gondor where it got really fast to the point of "they need to have different cultures" instead of backgrounds...

So I really hope, that we see the AC soon. I think it is importent to have those cultures from the books available for players. Do not misinterpret this, wooodmen or beornings are great as they are, but they do not really tend to be the first things a new player wants to take (especially if he does not know tor and has to learn that a beorning is not a beorn..!)

And then after the AC more Adventures please, so that there will be "ready to plays" for every region...

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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by DylanRPG » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:53 pm

Of those cultures not yet mentioned or advertized by Cubicle 7, I would most like to see Elves of the Grey Havens, Hobbits of Bree, and the Woses of Drúadan Forest.

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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Otaku-sempai » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:09 pm

Falenthal wrote:Wouldn't you have variants of the Hobbit culture?

We have the core Hobbits from The Shire and the optional Wild Hobbits from the Anduin.
But we should at least have some Bree Hobbits and, maybe, Hobbits from the Brandywine (they seem to fit a bit different from the rest).
I'm guessing that Bree-hobbits will be included in The Adventurer's Companion as a variant of Bree-folk or the Hobbits of the Shire, much as the Wild Hobbits of the Anduin were presented in The Heart of the Wild.
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Re: are we waiting for other cultures

Post by Falenthal » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:24 pm

Zulgolra wrote: About the Hobbits i have to say, that i think they are fleshed out quite good with the brandybuck background. Seems to me that background get underestimated or forgotten to fast and soon. Like in those diskussions about men of Gondor where it got really fast to the point of "they need to have different cultures" instead of backgrounds...
But it is true that, mechanically, a Background is only a justification for the numbers and the favourite skill.
See, for example, the background stories of A Life of Toil and Bitter Exile from the Dwarves of the Lonely Mountain: they are exactly a Dwarf from the Iron Hills and a Dwarf from the Grey Mountains. The same could happen to Hobbits, Gondorians or any other culture (Noble Blood from the Elves of Mirkwood could easily turn into a Sinda Elf Culture).

I agree that Backgrounds could have more consequences, but right now, they don't.

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