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Hobbit languages

Post by Glorelendil » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:08 pm

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Question:
When Bilbo is creeping about the cellars, how does he know what Galion and the Guard Captain are saying, or what the other elves say when the come down to help roll the barrels? Either they are speaking Westron (doubtful) or he understands Sindarin (more plausible, but I'm still skeptical).
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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by Terisonen » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:11 pm

I'm sure he understand (at least partially) Sindarin. Don't forget he is a elvish fanatic.
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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by zedturtle » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:18 pm

It could be, like the trolls, that what we get is more imagination than reality or might have been extrapolated after the fact.

But yeah, Bilbo having some Sindarin, esp after Rivendell, is not too unlikely.
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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by Glorelendil » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:29 pm

Post Red Book, sure. But in 2941? Where would he have learned Elvish?
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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by zedturtle » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:43 pm

Oh, I meant the early to midsummer of 2941 when he stayed at Rivendell with the dwarves.
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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by fjw70 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:54 pm

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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by jamesrbrown » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:01 am

Perhaps Tolkien just wanted us to know what they said and Bilbo was a good guesser?
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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by Falenthal » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:17 am

jamesrbrown wrote:... Bilbo was a good guesser?
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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by Rich H » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:53 am

The Elves had subtitles, he just read those.
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Re: Hobbit languages

Post by Robin Smallburrow » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:57 pm

You are all forgetting that Bilbo is wearing The Ring when he overhears the Guard Captain etc. I think this was why he was able to understand them!

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