The Core books as hardbacks

[kjetilkverndokken]

As I've been out of the loop a while in regards to TOR; have there ever been any indication on them making the core books as Hardbacks?

I do hope that will happen, as soft backs to easily wears after use - even such fine soft backs that TOR are, and rpg books are handled quite a lot

[Rich H]

This board has a search function. If you used it, you'd be able to answer the question yourself. Here you go:

search.php?keywords=hardbacks&fid%5B0%5D=7

Nothing concrete but people have previously expressed an interest/desire.

... even such fine soft backs that TOR are

Many wouldn't agree. There's been a long running issue for customers where their corebooks have fallen apart - the binding isn't... great... shall we say.

[kjetilkverndokken]

The search functons actually work now? I used this forum quite a lot with another handle back when Starblazer came out and Anglerre, and the search well... lets keep it at that.

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It is possible that by books have had a better luck in the gluing - and then again; I am very careful using them to much and have used the pdf's for general reading.

[Rich H]

The search functons actually work now? I used this forum quite a lot with another handle back when Starblazer came out and Anglerre, and the search well... lets keep it at that.

C7 have changed forums since then - that's why you created a new profile in October!

It is possible that by books have had a better luck in the gluing - and then again; I am very careful using them to much and have used the pdf's for general reading.

There will be variations between batches and it's fair to say that some will be stronger than others. I'm careful with mine and I had to purchase another copy as the previous one fell apart.

[Hermes Serpent]

C7 have replaced any books that fell apart due to the binding issue. I believe that the failure count is so low that they wish it was higher so they could go back to the printer for recompense.

Last time I talked to the C7 folks about a hard bound version of TOR it appeared that they were waiting for their stocks of the current version to run out before making any decision. This was before the success of the Cthulhu London KS and they weren't talking of looking to KS for funding at that point. After that successful KS they may change their mind, seven hundred and fifty three backers for the Cthulhu KS is a good number but I suspect the target market is more limited by the UK origin and November launch even though C7 have a US outlet so postage is not the issue it often is with KS projects for EU and RoW orders.

A comparable product is the Runequest 6 deluxe hardbound rulebook which was offered on Indiegogo and garnered 397 backers. Sixty-five dollars for a 450 page hard bound book is good value and the book is very nicely done with a slipcase and some new art. So pitching a 330 page hard bound book for around UKP60 and including the dice would seem to be a viable option for funding via KS or IGG. However I don't have any actual numbers to back this guesstimate up so C7's official thoughts might well be different on this matter.

[Mim]

Hermes Serpent, thanks for letting us know about the decision on the hardbound volumes. I would love to see them print at least a limited number in hardbound & would buy them in a second.

Some people have raised the cost factor as a rationale behind their not publishing them in hardbound to date (which makes sense), but I can still wish

[kjetilkverndokken]

I would say the cost difference between soft and hardbacks are minimal when one also put the books in a heavy duty slipcase

[Rich H]

I would say the cost difference between soft and hardbacks are minimal when one also put the books in a heavy duty slipcase

I'm inclined to agree on this although I think the cost would be higher.

Like I said earlier, I think C7 should seriously consider Kickstarting this. Get the funds up front from us fans and then your risk is reduced. Stretch goals could even include things like a re-organisation of the content among other elements.

[kjetilkverndokken]

Yeah, KS is a good way to go. Backed over 20 rpg products that way and it might be the best route for TOR, not only for making the Core hardback - but other books too.

[Mim]

I've never contributed to a Kickstarter but the more you all discuss it, the more inclined I'd be to support the game & do so here. I'll bet a number of us do & we could help them make this happen.