How Does One Become So Beastly
How Does One Become So Beastly
I'm sure I'm not the first to encounter this: one of my players wants to be a werebear like Beorn. How do player characters gain the ability to become werebears? As far as I can tell this ability isn't an option, but I thought I'd check.
And if it is possible, and something that can be earned like a Cultural Virtue, would there be other werecreatures that could be assumed? If so what animals do you think are appropriate?
And if it is possible, and something that can be earned like a Cultural Virtue, would there be other werecreatures that could be assumed? If so what animals do you think are appropriate?
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Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
Well TOR's take on Beorn's skinchanging is that he is the only one (and his descendants).
So.... Start as Grimbeorn.
So.... Start as Grimbeorn.
Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
I think the closest you can come is the Beornings virtue, "brothers to bears" or something like that (can't remember the proper name), but that only allows the character to assume a spirit-bear form at night time, if I remember correctly.
Beorn is sort of unique in Middle-earth, that's the impression I have. However if you really wanted to include some sort of were-creature transformation, from a cultural virtue, I'd propose you start looking at the virtue mentioned above and take it from there. But I don't think shape-shifters should be all to common, as I recall not even Grimbeorn could turn into a bear, could be wrong on that one though.
Beorn is sort of unique in Middle-earth, that's the impression I have. However if you really wanted to include some sort of were-creature transformation, from a cultural virtue, I'd propose you start looking at the virtue mentioned above and take it from there. But I don't think shape-shifters should be all to common, as I recall not even Grimbeorn could turn into a bear, could be wrong on that one though.
Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
I was wrong on that one, thenpoosticks7 wrote:Well TOR's take on Beorn's skinchanging is that he is the only one (and his descendants).
So.... Start as Grimbeorn.
Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
... If you wanted to introduce it into your campaign though GB, then an option may be to use the mechanics/system in Darkening of Mirkwood (on page 103) with regard to the Werewolf curse on a PC. You'd have to re-skin for a bear but it may give you some ideas as to the mechanical advantages.
TOR resources thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=62
TOR miniatures thread: viewtopic.php?t=885
Fellowship of the Free Tale of Years: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8318
TOR miniatures thread: viewtopic.php?t=885
Fellowship of the Free Tale of Years: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8318
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Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
I had the same request from a player... Probably because most players come from a high fantasy background and not being too familiar with the TOR setting.
But (spoiler alert), the Darkening of MIrkwood delivers an interesting option on the subject (almost); have a look at page 103 (Dying of the light adventure).
But (spoiler alert), the Darkening of MIrkwood delivers an interesting option on the subject (almost); have a look at page 103 (Dying of the light adventure).
Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
I think also Radagast being a "master of shapes" implies that it is a power that one can learn somehow, and at some point, master.
In the ME game I ran years ago one of the woodelf bowman had developd a relationship with The Lord of the Eagles and was slowly learning the art of the were-eagle. He had a nemesis in the form if a were-raven. Cut his three archery fingers off, he did. I'm trying to think if another shape changing incident.... Doesn't Luthien change her visage to become a vampire bat to smuggle Beren out of Utumno? My memory might be shaky here...
In the ME game I ran years ago one of the woodelf bowman had developd a relationship with The Lord of the Eagles and was slowly learning the art of the were-eagle. He had a nemesis in the form if a were-raven. Cut his three archery fingers off, he did. I'm trying to think if another shape changing incident.... Doesn't Luthien change her visage to become a vampire bat to smuggle Beren out of Utumno? My memory might be shaky here...
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Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
I am under the impression that Luthien was creating illusions, not shape-changing.Giblet Blizzard wrote:I think also Radagast being a "master of shapes" implies that it is a power that one can learn somehow, and at some point, master.
In the ME game I ran years ago one of the woodelf bowman had developd a relationship with The Lord of the Eagles and was slowly learning the art of the were-eagle. He had a nemesis in the form if a were-raven. Cut his three archery fingers off, he did. I'm trying to think if another shape changing incident.... Doesn't Luthien change her visage to become a vampire bat to smuggle Beren out of Utumno? My memory might be shaky here...
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Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
Luthien definitely flies while wearing the vampire bat's skin, so it's not just illusion.
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Re: How Does One Become So Beastly
Gareth, you raise a great point that I've struggled with concerning the game's version of Vampires.
Do you interpret a certain bat fane (granted you can't write her up for the game because of legal issues) to be the only reason for her flight?
If not (presumably), what was your reasoning behind the Secret Shadows & their dark powers?
Do you interpret a certain bat fane (granted you can't write her up for the game because of legal issues) to be the only reason for her flight?
If not (presumably), what was your reasoning behind the Secret Shadows & their dark powers?
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